Why are kids so fucking MEAN?!!!

Discussion in 'Life Sucks' started by HoneyImHome, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. HoneyImHome

    HoneyImHome sugar-coated cynicism

    Today I found out my son who's six years old and in kindergarten and also the smallest person on his bus (which also transports middle school kids) was picked on ... again... on the bus. The first time he was bothered was by some boy his age who kept trying to steal his backpack and hit him. Well that was fairly easily solved when we told him hit the little shit back harder than he hit my son. He did, that was the last of that kids problem. Today though some other kid (not sure of the age) started (using my son's words) "fussing at" him because my son was "looking at" him... WTF?!?!

    Well, my son told him he "was trying to know his age". My son has a pretty bad speech impediment. He also is being evaluated by the school psychologist for his developmental delays, i.e. motor skills that cause him a lot of problems holding his pencils, speech and language issues, lack of ability to focus or stay on task and other things. Well, after his testing she is leaning to say he's probably Highly Functioning Autistic. Of course, it's not the formal diagnosis, but she says he pretty much fits the criteria. Now if you saw my son in the classroom with the other kids, you really wouldn't notice the difference between him and the other kids. He likes to run and play and laugh. It wouldn't be until they all sat down quietly that you would pick up the differences.

    Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that this problem he has makes him a quiet and quirky under-sized little boy who for some reason comes across like an easy target for the little shits on the bus to pick on. My question is WHY in the hell do kids need to have this target? Why do they want to be so damned mean anyway???? My son is very fun and loving and cute as a button (if I do say so myself). The kids in his class like him. It's just the bus. I asked him why he doesn't sit with the little boy that always talks with him at the bus stop every morning. He said when they get on the bus and the little boy sits down (alone in the seat) and my son tries to sit with him, the kid puts his hand in a "halt" position and tells him to "don't even think about it". That kid is in second grade. He then started to tear up and tell me how nobody lets him sit with them. So he goes to the back and sits alone and the bigger kids (and some smaller ones at times) pick on him.

    By the way, I'm going to start driving him to and from school now instead of letting him on the bus. I actually thought his exposure to a bus ride would help his social skills... stupid me! :mad:

    (Sorry for the rambling and disorganization... I'm a bit pissed)
  2. It's because kids like the feeling of being powerful, and it seems picking on the smaller ones gives them a sense of that power.

    It's sad, but it's true.
  3. Jugular

    Jugular fuck you bitch and what you been through

    Funny...for me it was little kids picking on me, the tall kid.

    The Peking Order. I think thats how its spelled. They feel the need to rise in status by picking on people who nobody messes with.

    I guess it depends.
  4. I was picked on because I was tall. But I was faster and stronger than anybody in my grade at that time.

    The problem was, it wasn't the people in my grade who were picking on me. It was the kids 5 grades above me.
  5. Jugular

    Jugular fuck you bitch and what you been through

    I just hate it when people make fun of other people for being short or young. Its something they can't control themselves, why make things worse for them?
  6. Or tall and skinny...
  7. MentorX

    MentorX The Literate Ape

    Kids usually learn how to be mean to others by observing their parents.
  8. KMASOB

    KMASOB Wild in the Wind

    The problem I feel starts in the home. The other child/s parents are letting them get away with that. Tell the bus driver. Outside of finding an older/stronger child to taunt the other children there is nothing you can do. Just help your child build enough self esteem in his self that he doesn't need others.
  9. Jugular

    Jugular fuck you bitch and what you been through

    Kids get away with so much shit on buses.
  10. JLXC

    JLXC WTF's Official Conspiracy Fanatic

    Well Honey because kids are selfish little shits some of who feel it is their right to torture anyone they can because they hate their own lives and usually themselves.

    My brother had Epilepsy and he was Literally driven insane by the endless torment of public school and eventually killed himself over it. We tired every measure within the rules and with the cops to stop it, to no avail. I've heard every excuse in the book to let these bullies continue to be bullies, from the bullies parents, from the school, from everyone. Needless to say I have a harsh perspective on that kind of shit, and know it's not harmless and can lead to fatal consequences.

    But that's life for ya. Totally unfair and supporting of Evil.

    Good luck, I hope you have better luck than we did.
  11. lady victoria

    lady victoria Too old for this shit! Premium

    You're doing the right thing, young kids dont have the barriers and understanding that older children may do. If I think back i cant remember little kids being much different. On the positive side when he moves onto high school he may not have the same problem as he has now, with the kids being older. I would hope so anyway.
  12. Bitch

    Bitch Spaghetti suit! The new take out! Staff

    I was picked on because I was the oldest. The kids thought since I was older than they were I had to be more "mature" by their standards.

    Hey I repeated kindergarten because the school didn't think I was sophisticated enough, I didn't know how to read yet, and I didn't know French. Go figure. 5 year old kids these days are supposed to be all proper, French speaking, advanced readers! :p

    Meanwhile. you are doing a good job. Taking him to school I'm sure will help him feel much better not having to defend himself in such tight quarters. The bus can be brutal. It's a whole different world on a bus than a school building!
  13. BrIONwoshMunky

    BrIONwoshMunky Pining for the fjords Staff

    Our bus driver while I was in school, was a hard ass. He didn't tolerate anything on his bus. No eating, standing, yelling, turning around in the seats, moving from your assigned seats without permission, and no sass. I rode other buses to friends' houses, and they were all fucking insane and crazy. The busride was more stressful than the school day. I was going to a friend's house one afternoon, and he got into a fight and ended up with a broken hand... we were in the 5th grade... And by fight, I'm talking 30 kids yelling and screaming in a circle around the two involved in a death match... and the driver just kept dropping kids off and motoring right along...

    Our bus may have 'sucked' by kid standards, but I'll be damned if our driver would've tolerated any abuse against anyone on his watch. I can't count on my fingers the amount of times he banned people from his bus, using the "Riding the bus is a privlidge, not a right, We'll see you in three days."

    He was a neighbor, so we always got to hear the stories about the angry phone calls from parents... it was so funny.
  14. HoneyImHome

    HoneyImHome sugar-coated cynicism

    Bri, my highschool daughter has a driver like that and she hates her lol. But yeah, that bus also doesn't have shit like this happening.

    I've mentioned the first kid to the driver and he said that my son goes back to the back (because the kids up front don't let him sit with him and that's the only empty seating) and he "can't see" him to watch him. He's so small you literally can't see him over the seats.

    I know I could make a stink but I don't want the driver and school to start demanding everyone to treat my son right and cause the kids to start identifying my son as a crybaby or weakling... blah blah. This is his first year (kindergarten) at this school. I don't want to start things off like that for him. So, I've decided to just avoid the bus since I don't HAVE to make him ride it anyway. Besides in a year or two he won't be so small. He has time to get some size on him and some speech therapy as well. We can do this later.
  15. meh_it_all

    meh_it_all WTF.com Sexy Pimp-ette.

    I used to ride a 'bus' to school, though we called it a coach.

    Anyways, because I was the oldest, I was the monitor of the coach. Whenever shit like this would happen, I would sort it out. I know what it was like to be bullied and I certainly didn't like when it was happening to other people around me.

    I'm sorry to hear that your son has been subjected to this already, he sounds like a nice kid. I'm sure taking to him to school instead will help.
  16. Miss Char-Lee

    Miss Char-Lee professional sociopath

    My kid was getting constantly picked on at school. One day, he came home with scratches all around his throat and said one of his "friends" tried to strangle him. So I went to the school and bitched at them, figuring that should be the end of that.

    He came home 3 days later with more scratches and a goose-egg on his kneecap. So his father and I gave him our blessing to retaliate. The next day, the bully grabbed him by his pantlegs and tripped him, but while he was down there, I guess he used the other boy's nutsack as his own personal punching bag.

    I didn't want to raise a bully - I was on the other end of that stick growing up and it's no fun to be the one getting picked on. But I won't sit back and watch my kid get picked on and beat up because the school sucks at monitoring the children.
  17. Razielus

    Razielus Num-Nuts

    I know how it is

    I know how it feels to be bullied, but in my school(i'm 14), its usualy "clan" wars:
    when you get beat up, your friends (yes, in my school, the cool kids mix with the unpopular kids) take on the bully and the other way around. It keeps going like that for a couple of days until someone stops stricking(usualy when the teachers get involved)

    the fight never happen on the bus though, because its not a school bus, its a public bus and we need to pay, but its pretty expensive when you go back and forth every day. so whe all pitch in to get a subscribtion(one month thingy) and give it to one guy that stays infront of te bus so that when the controllers get on, he distracts them so we can get off without getting cautgh. (yes, I know, its evil but hey: it developpes cooperation :D )
  18. TFO

    TFO I am not a fan

    I not a parent, but don't take your kid off that bus. He needs a tuff skin, because dealing with kids in elementry school is nothing like dealing middle school or high school kids. Hell, teach him how to comeback to the jokes they make. In school kids made fun of me for my weight. I went home cryin to my dad and he said grow up and do the same to them. I did and made all of them fuckers cry.

    All of the kids whose parents bailed them out right now are those annoying pompass(sp?) crybabies that tell the teachers whenever anyone says anything. Going through that shit is a right of passage for that kid. Everyone person on this site has a bully story, even those that were bullies themselves.
  19. JLXC

    JLXC WTF's Official Conspiracy Fanatic

    You must not have read the entire thread. You know what? Maybe we should keep pressuring everyone to stop the bullies instead of allowing it? This thick skin as you call it is only needed if kids are allowed to be straight up evil bullies. Maybe it's the bullies who need to change, and not the kids getting picked on?

    If your bully kid is kicked off the bus, kicked out of school, Geee... you may have to figure out what is going wrong and change something. I like this better than your alternative, especially since her kid is disadvantaged from the start, like my brother was. Plus, once you're out of school... umm... the bullying seems to go away. Why should we continue to allow school to be a time of mental and physcial abuse?
  20. TFO

    TFO I am not a fan

    Listen, I understand that it's some serious bullshit what her kid is going through but hell there have been bullies since the begining of school. Taking a bully out of school is like taking a drug dealer of the streets, as soon as you do it another one will just pop up.

    And don't give me that disadvantage shit. Sheilding them from real life does not help anyone. Because as you know kids are assholes and are going to make fun of him for years to come. Better for him to learn how to deal with it sooner than later.

    Dealing with bullies is a great way not to become a little Randel(if you watch reccess.)

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