i think the reason why generally a lot of political debates get started in here is because, well, for one thing, topics can be lead into different directions pretty easily. such is the way of conversation. and for another thing, since this is bait and tackle, people have a lot more freedom to throw in those flames to add some spice to the debate. which is not to say people don't flame outside of b&t anyway, but i'm just saying for those who don't wish to get prodded about it if they decide to flame.
everyone's got something to say and everyone wants to be heard so there's just topics that will never die. might as well give up and just deal with it. sorry buddy, you're not special. just because you say shut up, like so many others have been driven to so much frustration to do so, doesn't mean it's gonna happen. it might die down a bit for those who were just waiting for someone else to silence them so they could find some sort of closure, and be able to stfu without feeling like something was left hanging.