Yeah, like the pull-in was so good...
Headlines "Bush: Iraq pullout would be disastrous"
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crocostix said:cmon, it was hilarious, i had my share of fun seeing the iraqi minister of information
I forgot about that...and Saddam coming out of the hole...and the prisoners ridden like ponies.. Good Times!
ugh...
in the LONG RUN the war will have been good if we don't fuck it up from this point on. the country was in bad shape and the region was being destabilized. our military action disrupted their way of life in the SHORT RUN, in the hopes of establishing a better future for the country. in the LONG RUN. operations like this take well more than a year, even in our impatient ADD-inflicted information-age world.
leaving now would be disastrous, because we turned the country upside down, dismantled their government, and squished their military. until we're able to get them back on their feet in better conditions and under new leadership, we have to stay there. it's only been a year and everyone's fucking flipping their lids. this shit takes time. what did they expect, unseat saddam and then come home? they called it a "decapitation strike", for fucks sake. we don't just leave a headless body to fend for itself when we went in there with the stated mission of helping it.
that is all.
in the LONG RUN the war will have been good if we don't fuck it up from this point on. the country was in bad shape and the region was being destabilized. our military action disrupted their way of life in the SHORT RUN, in the hopes of establishing a better future for the country. in the LONG RUN. operations like this take well more than a year, even in our impatient ADD-inflicted information-age world.
leaving now would be disastrous, because we turned the country upside down, dismantled their government, and squished their military. until we're able to get them back on their feet in better conditions and under new leadership, we have to stay there. it's only been a year and everyone's fucking flipping their lids. this shit takes time. what did they expect, unseat saddam and then come home? they called it a "decapitation strike", for fucks sake. we don't just leave a headless body to fend for itself when we went in there with the stated mission of helping it.
that is all.
gumercules said:
Odds are in ten years, Iraq looks exactly the same as it did under Saddam. A warring people will always war, even on themselves...
Chris said:
Now you're thinkin'
Eye for an eye, pony ride for a pony ride...
for what reason the war happened, nobody knows...only does bush and i doubt it
times like this im glad im not american(which is all the time), i dont know...that kerry guy gives me the creeps, he looks like a killer that would snap any minute, i don`t trust a guy who wants to test kindergardeners in order to pass to elementary
if you`d pass all this shit down to kerry, he`d undoubtly fuck-up, but then again, what makes us so sure that bush wont?
for a fact, bush will keep screwing you over if he has a second term in office, and who knows...maybe he`ll do another trivial war again
bush isnt a bad guy, now im not a conservative beacause im not american, but at least he has his head on the ground and out of his ass unlike all liberals
i dont know what makes everyone so sure that iraq wont stand on its own without your help, they`re looking at you like oppressors, sure, you`re doing great things, heroic fireman/navy stuff, like saving them and making hospitals, you`re cleaning your mess, and saddam`s mess, i dont know what i`d do in the presidents situation, and im sure you dont either, so i dont have an oppinion, and the people that the american army are fighting, are some crazy arab socialist/extremist dudes, so they`re keeping order
i have no oppinion, shit`ll just happen
times like this im glad im not american(which is all the time), i dont know...that kerry guy gives me the creeps, he looks like a killer that would snap any minute, i don`t trust a guy who wants to test kindergardeners in order to pass to elementary
if you`d pass all this shit down to kerry, he`d undoubtly fuck-up, but then again, what makes us so sure that bush wont?
for a fact, bush will keep screwing you over if he has a second term in office, and who knows...maybe he`ll do another trivial war again
bush isnt a bad guy, now im not a conservative beacause im not american, but at least he has his head on the ground and out of his ass unlike all liberals
i dont know what makes everyone so sure that iraq wont stand on its own without your help, they`re looking at you like oppressors, sure, you`re doing great things, heroic fireman/navy stuff, like saving them and making hospitals, you`re cleaning your mess, and saddam`s mess, i dont know what i`d do in the presidents situation, and im sure you dont either, so i dont have an oppinion, and the people that the american army are fighting, are some crazy arab socialist/extremist dudes, so they`re keeping order
i have no oppinion, shit`ll just happen
In any event, a pull out of Iraq would be disasterous...the moment we move out Iran moves in and takes over. At the end of the day the world is a better place without Saddam Hussein in a position of power, and if that's all the war accomplished, I'd still call it a victory. And also, if the United States accomplishes what it set out to do in Iraq, create a stable and fair government and create an economy that can stand on it's own, we've added another country that can help improve the world for our time on it.
So tell me exactly how that's a bad thing.
So tell me exactly how that's a bad thing.
GT22,GoalTaylor22 said:
You are a fool, like so many others. The "dream" of turning Iraq around. It's F'd up, always has been, always will be, they are never going to be a stable country. They don't think like us here in the US, nor do they want to do so.
"Helping Iraq" is just something they used to cover, once they realized they weren't going to find any WMD. Pipe dream, a waste of lives and resources.
You're a fool if you beileve wmd were the reason for being in Iraq in the first place.
I never believed it - it's what Bush told us, if you can remember back to his "impassioned" speeches on TV...GoalTaylor22 said:
voiceofreason said:
If he was lying, can you blame him? Bush was trying to oust a tyrant, but just the fact that he was a tyrant these days isn't enough to oust him from his high position. They needed a more imminent threat than the fact that he tortured and killed his own people, so I for one can't judge him too harshly for fabricating the whole "weapons of mass destruction" tale.
I blame him completely for mis-leading the American people, mis-representing the threat and killing 100's of our good service people for no reason at all.GoalTaylor22 said:
Obviously, you'll forgive anything. Sorry, I am a True American, and can not forgive a traitor.
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