Gah! Oh shit! (Linux horror story inside)

Descent · Nov 4, 2004

I put Mandrake on my second computer today...holy shit.

I will never use Mandrake again.

After installing, LILO opened up. Sweet! I'm good to go!

Well, shit. My luck ran out. When I tried to boot Linux, it hanged.

Rebooted, then it worked.

I had to enable the root account (Because Mandrake is too easy on the n00bs). No sweat, I ran Mandrake 9 before, so I knew how to do it in Mandrake 10.

Well, I figure, "Okay! Time to get on the Webternet!" I install the Atmel WLAN chipset driver for my Belkin F5D6050 USB WLAN adapter.

I press <esc> while it's booting so Linux will tell me what is happening (Mandrake shields you from the kernel module loading). Ohhhh! Pretty! Alpha blending!

I says something like "Setting up eth0, blah blah blah." Well, that's fine, eth0 is my wired connection, and I'm on wireless.

It says the same thing for "WLAN." Well, it's taking a while, and then I realize that it can't seem to get my IP from my router's DHCP server.

Oh shit. Well, no Webternet now. So I look around for the WLAN config program. I can't find it.

I say, "Okay, I'll just reboot." Yep. You guessed it. LILO froze again. And again, and again.

Six reboots later, I say, "Fuck Mandrake! I'm putting on Gentoo!"

What a piece of shit. This is by far the worst OS I have ever used. Hell, even fucking WinCrash 98 set itself up better.

So in short, fuck MandrakeSoft for making yet another shitty product!

betrayed · Nov 4, 2004

Crazy stuff.. Heh, I checked out your thread history, your quite the techie

NaughtyGirl21 · Nov 4, 2004

Whats Mandrake? Is that a game?...Wow that does suck for you though whatever it is.

Descent · Nov 4, 2004

Mandrake Linux is an operating system.

Windows is one, too.

NaughtyGirl21 · Nov 4, 2004

ohhh, ok, I get you now.

Fire_ze_Missles · Nov 4, 2004

jstager said:

I put Mandrake on my second computer today...holy shit.

I will never use Mandrake again.

After installing, LILO opened up. Sweet! I'm good to go!

Well, shit. My luck ran out. When I tried to boot Linux, it hanged.

Rebooted, then it worked.

I had to enable the root account (Because Mandrake is too easy on the n00bs). No sweat, I ran Mandrake 9 before, so I knew how to do it in Mandrake 10.

Well, I figure, "Okay! Time to get on the Webternet!" I install the Atmel WLAN chipset driver for my Belkin F5D6050 USB WLAN adapter.

I press <esc> while it's booting so Linux will tell me what is happening (Mandrake shields you from the kernel module loading). Ohhhh! Pretty! Alpha blending!

I says something like "Setting up eth0, blah blah blah." Well, that's fine, eth0 is my wired connection, and I'm on wireless.

It says the same thing for "WLAN." Well, it's taking a while, and then I realize that it can't seem to get my IP from my router's DHCP server.

Oh shit. Well, no Webternet now. So I look around for the WLAN config program. I can't find it.

I say, "Okay, I'll just reboot." Yep. You guessed it. LILO froze again. And again, and again.

Six reboots later, I say, "Fuck Mandrake! I'm putting on Gentoo!"

What a piece of shit. This is by far the worst OS I have ever used. Hell, even fucking WinCrash 98 set itself up better.

So in short, fuck MandrakeSoft for making yet another shitty product!

If you cannot even install Mandrake properly, which is a user-friendly OS; There is no way you would be able to install Gentoo, even with its wonderful installation guides. And in a week, you'll be on here bitching because your installation hangs at the LILO boot, because you didn't set up your fstab correctly.

Jung · Nov 5, 2004

jstager said:

1) Did you try the ifconfig command? (learn how to use man(manual), ie man ifconfig)
2) Did you check in /etc/somehitng/network-config or something similar (I'm not familiar with Mandrake)
3) As Fire_Ze said; Did you google for help unfucking fstab?
4) You'll likely find gentoo extremely hard to install, I"m not saying you're stupid, just stating the truth.
5) You should take my advice and try Suse or even RedHat (cringe) before trying to jump in feet first. I doubt you'll be putting to use any of the advanced features that Gentoo or Debian have to offer, so why bother? Also, if you start with a Gentoo stage 3 tarball it's pretty much pointless. The whole benifit of gentoo is being able to compile your kernel from a stage 1 tarball or source.

tzedek · Nov 5, 2004

mandrake blows anyway. personally, i would suggest suse for noobs. honestly, my favorite is collegelinux but nobody else seems to like it

for future reference, stay away from mandrake, its a complete waste of time. mandrake isnt for linux noobs, its for people who wil never understand anything about linux (IMO)

and if you want the easiest install/setup ever check out mepis.

breakology · Nov 5, 2004

Linspire (formally Lindows) started out as such a good Idea .... I visited the site few months ago to see how it was developing, and what a crock of shit it turned it to.

I still stand by debian, it's by far the most stable version of linux I have used (next to slackware)

tzedek · Nov 5, 2004

breakology said:

is that the click n run shit? you have to pay for each program you use? haha what a fucking joke.

Jung · Nov 5, 2004

breakology said:

tzedek said:

Exactly! They took a debian kernel and crippled it, removing all dev tools and most of the advanced features. Sure, you can hack apt to point to normal deb repositories, but why? Lindows always was a piece of shit and it always will be. Taking a free opensource (workstation)OS and finding a loop hole into charging for it is pretty weak imo.

L33ad · Nov 5, 2004

I've moved away from Linux entirely. I'm now running a system on Sun Solaris 8, which is pure UNIX. It runs great, I must say.

However, if I had to comment on Mandrake, I'd have to say it's not the greatest distribution in the world. Far less than what they make it out to be on their site.

Gentoo is great, if you don't mind taking an hour and learning how to set it up. The only drawback to Gentoo is the packaging system. I hate it. You have to compile everything yourself, so if you want a GUI you're going to be stuck compiling for three days. I hear Slackware Linux is good, I haven't looked into it yet. Debian is good for most.

Jung · Nov 5, 2004

L33ad said:

What are you talking about? Gentoo has a portage system (emerge), just like debian's apt and BSD's port.

Also, I agree that Solaris is a brilliant OS, but it's not really for home or workstation use. I've used it extensively in the work place and I love it, but I can't see putting up with such a lack or supporting software at home.

Descent · Nov 6, 2004

I've used CollegeLinux before. Great OS. I think I am going to put that on later today.

Well, lemme put it this way...

At the bootloader, there is a little status bar. When it reaches full, then it will boot.

Well, the little fucker hangs at 10%. I'm not too sure if it's FSTAB, since Linux refuses to even start.

Well, I'm going to put CollegeLinux on. Fuck Mandrake, it sucks balls.

bigck3000 · Nov 6, 2004

HEY GUYS!!!!!....Windows Xp is soo l33t, they have this kewl messenger service...so i can talk to all my buddies on the net....i totally pwn them in CS...Linux is 4 n00bs...XP rawks!!!1111!!

Jung · Nov 6, 2004

jstager said:

Failsafe mode! (Command promp) There is a lot that can be fixed will only shell acess. I run the X at home, but i NEVER use them it on servers, it's pointless. There isn't one single thing I would need to do in linux that I can't accomplish via command line. This of course excludes painting pictures or playing games, I did say NEED though.

tzedek · Nov 6, 2004

jstager said:

sweet, i love collegelinux. too bad the latest release is almost 1 year old.

Descent · Nov 6, 2004

One year old?

Fudge it.

What is the kernel module version? If it's old, can I upgrade the kernel?

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