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Discuss Inevitable Civil War or...

TooSmartGuile

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It's like a pressure cooker filling with carbon dioxide every second since... maybe 9/11 or since the 90s. I don't really know, but I feel the pressure now. And honestly, I am really feeling that dread he talked about since I saw the video. It's as if the lights turned on in the night club and I was actually grinding on another man.
 

CoprophagousCop

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So he is mad that some organizations are censoring people for spreading hate speech and making false accusations.
Freedom of speech does not always mean freedom from censorship.
 

TooSmartGuile

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So you agree that Antifa should also be censored? They aggravate violent situations on the streets and threaten organizations, individuals, and groups based on opposing affiliation. For anti Fascists, they behave like them frequently. Marching in large crowds, in the color black, assaulting people they don't agree with, pressure the media to censor and corner their opponents, for example.
 

RebelBuddha

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So he is mad that some organizations are censoring people for spreading hate speech and making false accusations.
Freedom of speech does not always mean freedom from censorship.
No. Literally the definition of freedom of speech is to be free of censorship. Thats like... the whole deal with freedom of speech.

I think what you mean to say... is that freedom of speech is only guaranteed in a public forum.
 

RebelBuddha

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Imagine that... places that never had or understood the concept of free speech... limiting free speech for feelings. In any case, many of the things listed are still free to say. You don't go straight to jail if you libel or slander.... you may face some tort though. Its not outlawed as much as it is not free from legal repercussion.

As of late the west, and more particularly those under the domain of the Queen, have sought mandated speech legislation. You can't in any stretch of the imagination say that a country such as that has free speech "but with limitations".

Free speech is just that. Free from censorship by the state. Not free from legal repercussion from the individual. Its the idea that the State will make no law which forces mandates on the content of speech. If you live in a place with any form of speech mandates, your place does not have freedom of speech.

Pretty cut and dry.
 

TheRover

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What's he talking about, can anybody explain it in a nutshell. Why be afraid of civil war, we all need to let of some steam and there is too many people.
 

RebelBuddha

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What's he talking about, can anybody explain it in a nutshell. Why be afraid of civil war, we all need to let of some steam and there is too many people.
In a nutshell. When people don't discuss things, they fight.

Why be afraid... because war is awful. It likely won't be a call of duty re-spawn sitch brah.
 

CoprophagousCop

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we could have a gentleman's agreement to only use hand guns or swords..
What about a hand gun that shoots swords? :eek:
What about a gentleman's agreement to just arm wrestle? :rolleyes:

Your country could be headed to a civil war to decide whether or not to leave or rejoin the European Union, but most likely not. War is the most expensive way to do anything.

As for censorship and freedom of speech, some profanity, nudity, and sexual acts are censored from the public air waves and other public forums. Even some forms of private communication, such as images of child porn and bestiality, are banned outright. Without some censorship, civilization would be much less civilized. Consider also that all this new "censorship" is occurring on the internet. Thirty years ago there virtually was no internet and no one was talking about civil war because they found it difficult to spread hate and disinformation.

The guy in the OP's video is a tool. There, I used my freedom of speech to write that.
 

Crazizniac

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BTW CrC you still owe me those ...uh, "images" . Let me know when the "eagle'" has landed.

"Paranoia will destroy-ya" - Black Sabath