GottaHurt said:Personally, I think abortion is wrong, but, I'm Pro Choice.As a man, I don't think I have a right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body.I think the toughest part of the debate, aside from the religious aspect, are the different scenario's that can arise.
Here's several examples to ponder:
1) A man and a woman concieve a child, the woman wants to abort, the man doesn't.
2) A man and a woman concieve a child, the man wants to abort, the woman doesn't.
3) Does a fetus have legal rights? If so, then at conception? Or at what stage?
As I stated in the beginning, I have to remain Pro Choice, because to me there are no clear answers, and until there's an absolute solution, then a woman, IMO, should have the last say in regard to her body.
badassmtbiker said:I'm fairly pro-choice, but generall conside the very three points you brought up. I understand that a pregnancy affects a woman. However, looking at the long term - that's the man's child, too.
I've always made sure to discuss the options (the good ol' "what are we gonna do if you get pregnant" talk) before becoming too serious with a girlfriend. If her thoughts/beliefs are not in line with mine, then I tend to re-think things.
debatemasterblu said:Hey everybody! I just want to know your opinions on abortion so maybe we could start some sort of debate about whether abortions should be legal and what not or something similar. Go on. You know you want to.
debatemasterblu said:I cannot see how courts can say that if a man kills a pregnant woman, and both the woman and the baby dies, than the man can be charged with murder for both. Therefore, they are saying that the infant does indeed have its own respectable life. Why, then, is this never brought up when debating about abortion?
Okay, okay. I see where you are coming from. I am a boy, and will never, ever, have to worry about if a baby is going to be pushed out of me. I am merely stating my opinion ans saying that abortion is wrong. Sure, there are situations where, perhaps, the family cannot afford to support this child. This is where adoption, rather than abortion, comes into play. My best friend was adopted, and she would no longer exist for me, or anybody else, to know her if she would have been put through an abortion. Adoption is something those wanting an abortion should greatly consider.mthrlangl said:Actually, it is brought up. In fact, there's a pretty big stink about it right now. However, the law was supposedly written so that it didn't include abortion.
Now. For my $.02. I am personally very, very pro-life, and my son proves it. I was 19 when I got pregnant. I was in a horrible relationship with a man who'd stopped caring about me a long time ago. By myself, I didn't have the balls to leave him - don't ask why, because I'm not sure myself. But when I got pregnant, it was obvious that he didn't want either of us. Don't get me wrong, abortion crossed my mind. (As did throwing myself in front of a subway train.) But my god, how could I do that, especially looking at my son now? (The darling child who was just stabbing me with a foil sword. :: rolls eyes :: )
However. No matter my personal beliefs, I would vote pro-choice. My morals aren't your morals, and if you insist on killing your child/fetus, then you shouldn't have to do it in a back alley with a coat hanger. I think until society changes, abortion will be present. If it changes, but I can hope it does.
To some extent, I think you can't really state your position with any certainty until you've been there yourself. :: shrug ::
GottaHurt said:You make valid points mthrlangl but this part:
"Or if the child was going to be born with some horrible disease?"
Opens a whole new can of worms.I understand where you're coming from, but I'd hate to have a "select few" in our society determining "whose worthy or not" to live.
That is also a very good point. It's very easy to say you're for or against this before you ever actually have to deal with it, but then when actually faced with the choice, I wonder how many people stick to their convictions.mthrlangl said:I wasn't saying that I agree with the idea; I was just wondering what his reaction was to the question. My entire point is that I think it's very hard to steadfastly say that you're against abortion unless you've been faced with the choice at some point.
mthrlangl said:I wasn't saying that I agree with the idea; I was just wondering what his reaction was to the question. My entire point is that I think it's very hard to steadfastly say that you're against abortion unless you've been faced with the choice at some point.