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Headlines Kerry Rips Bush on 'Mission Accomplished' Remark

voiceofreason

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MADISON, Wis. (Reuters) - Democratic presidential challenger John Kerry (news - web sites) ripped into President Bush (news - web sites) on Sunday for saying he had no regrets over his "Mission Accomplished" speech on Iraq (news - web sites) and would do it again.

Kerry, expressed outrage after Bush's statement in an interview with Fox News in which he was asked if he would still have shown up in a flight suit for that May 1, 2003 speech aboard an aircraft carrier off the coast of California.

"Absolutely," Bush was quoted as saying in excerpts of the interview, which is to air this week.

Kerry, arriving in Madison, Wisconsin for debate preparations, called the statement "unbelievable."

"I will never be a president who just says mission accomplished. I will get the mission accomplished," said the Massachusetts senator. "That's the difference."
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It's about time!

 

tzedek

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dubya said:
"You got to be able to speak clearly in order to make this world a more peaceful place"
mmmmm... good call buddy
 

blitzen9090

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wait

so kerry sed this eh? haha.....and what the hell makes you think HE'S gunna get it done?? dude, he spent 20 fucking years in congress but BARELY mentions a damn thing about it (probably because he is embarrassed of it). He focused completely on his war record, which he served in Nam for 4 months, and killed one person, an already wounded 9-year old boy (im getting these facts from one of the people that was in his platoon, he is my driving instructor), THEN he proceeds to tell everyone that he saved the one guy who had been blown off the boat or whatever. if Kerry had DIVED into the water to save the guy, it would have been different, but all he did was reach down and grab the dood's hand....woopdy fuck! boo KERRY! booo BUSH! VOTE NADER!
 

MaxPower

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We don't know, but Bush already proved he can't.
I don't see shit accomplished.
 

voiceofreason

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MaxPower said:
We don't know, but Bush already proved he can't.
I don't see shit accomplished.
It's not that he hasn't accomplished anything, the problem is that he has Un-accomplished so much...
 
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RedOctober

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The mission accomplished remark was a very stupid thing from Bush.
Everybody in the whole world knew that.

But the republican dynosaurs keep supporting that wacko.
You know why?
Because the don't think.
They believe in some idiot Christian Fundalist Devine Plan.

The influence of protestant sects is increasing.
The bible belt partly believes that the coming of The Lord
might be helped a bit by turning the middle east into a blazing fire,
like the Armaggeddon scenario.

American books tell a lot of fiction crap, that a lot of dummies really believe!

For instance, I have read The Da Vinci Code of Dan Brown, just curious of the tricks he used to write that novel.
Now I know, I could do better ;)
But to my surprise, a lot of American tourists are visiting Paris nowadays, with the damn book in their hands!
There are a few very simple clues in the book. You couls find out it by using the google picture search.
But they have done it very clever.. They made a few sites that support the book of Dan Brown.

In that way, you can easily trick a lot of people into buying the book, of even believe it!

O Yeah, and Bush is Skull & Bones! New Order, Illuminati, New Age, Satan.
The Prince of Darkness, The Black Beast. The Golem.

Madonna rides on the same broom with her Caballah trickery.
 

msalyss85

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blitzen9090 said:
im getting these facts from one of the people that was in his platoon, he is my driving instructor
enough said. :rolleyes:

holy toledo, batman, i didn't know your driving instructor was a political messiah! :p
 

Pachyderm

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So.. You're saying... if you went to war and you were wounded by shrapnel or knicked by bullets, that that should be held against you because you accepted the award? And you're saying that... if there was a guy in the water drowing and I gave him my hand and pulled him out of the water that it wouldn't count?
In vietnam, the Americans did not know who the enemies were. They could be small children, because there were. Sometimes they were civilians, and if you thought about it too long, they would have whipped out their guns and shot you. I am sure he killed that boy (so you say) before he had the chance to kill him.
My dad was in the war and I asked him about killings. That is what he told me. Since you don't know who the enemies are... you shot at anything. My dad was wounded, he had shrapnel in his arms (still there today), he has emotional trauma for it. I say just being there and witnessing it is wounding enough.
Kerry is not the ideal choice, but comon, lay off of him for these petty and rediculous things.. not getting wounded enough, not killing enough, not saving enough. How would it have turned out if you were there. Don't write about things you don't know about blitz.
 

tzedek

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blitzen9090 said:
(im getting these facts from one of the people that was in his platoon, he is my driving instructor)

Dont vote for Bush becuase 1. He lied to America many times. 2. He has his own personal agenda and could care less about anyone else. 3. He is not intelligent enough to run this country and finally 4. His job "creation" record compares only to Hoover's (if you want to call it a "job creation" record, seeing as how we have actually lost more jobs than created). Oh and BTW, im getting these facts from myself, becuase I actually do research as opposed to listening to other people and taking their every word as the truth.
 

DanGeo23

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Bush's carrier speech... I know this is playing semantics... but he never made the statement/comment/remark "mission accomplished"... it was however on a sign behind him... in his speech he states that
Our mission continues.
and
Yet we also have dangerous work to complete.
there are usually missions within missions... which he declared the end to "major combat"... one mission.. next mission is the stabilization... which is going poorly... (due to PC issues IMO)... all in the name of the greater mission.. a democratic Iraq...
blitzen said:
1. He lied to America many times.
When?
blitzen said:
2. He has his own personal agenda
opinion... if its his personal agenda.. then you can only speculate as to what it is...
blitzen said:
3. He is not intelligent enough to run this country
another opinion.. most people that criticise him as being dumb... use his speech giving ability as a litmus test for inteligence... others use nonflatering pictures to say.. yeah .. look he even looks stupid.. or they take the word about how smart he is from people he fired that make the nat'l TV show rounds peddling thier upcoming books...
blitzen said:
4. His job "creation" record compares only to Hoover's
Hmmm.. Government doesn't create jobs it only diverts resources... unless we are talkin socialism or communism... unemployment is at 5.4% (I believe) ... which would be about the same as when Clinton went for reelection...
blitzen said:
Oh and BTW, im getting these facts from myself, becuase I actually do research as opposed to listening to other people and taking their every word as the truth.
where did you do your research... moveon.org.. or mikemoore.com.. maybe cbs.com..
 

tzedek

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DanGeo23 said:



all the time buddy... life for instace "Iraq has stockpiles of WMDS"

or you could just go here and check out a bunch yourself:

LINK

opinion... if its his personal agenda.. then you can only speculate as to what it is...

Yes, I can only speculate what a big bussiness oil man's personal agenda is...


another opinion.. most people that criticise him as being dumb... use his speech giving ability as a litmus test for inteligence... others use nonflatering pictures to say.. yeah .. look he even looks stupid.. or they take the word about how smart he is from people he fired that make the nat'l TV show rounds peddling thier upcoming books...
ok, well i have never seen any proof that he is a very intelligent person. Usually intelligent can use modifiers in the correct way. Hell, they can even use verbs correctly, sadly bushy cannot.

www.dubyaspeak.com



Hmmm.. Government doesn't create jobs it only diverts resources... unless we are talkin socialism or communism... unemployment is at 5.4% (I believe) ... which would be about the same as when Clinton went for reelection...

Link about Bush's 1.9% job decline rate


where did you do your research... moveon.org.. or mikemoore.com.. maybe cbs.com..
more like www.house.gov
 

DanGeo23

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TZ said:
"Iraq has stockpiles of WMDS"
that isn't a lie.. if you are told something is true by sources you find reputable.. FBI.. CIA.. UN.. France.. blah blah.. and you repeat it.. you aren't lying.. BTW.. you cannot deny that there were never WMDs there.. it is scarier to think we don't know where they are...
TZ said:
LINK
www.dubyaspeak.com
Link about Bush's 1.9% job decline rate
what great places to do research.. I'm glad to see that you are objective
TZ said:
speculate what a big bussiness oil man's
I get so tired of this fake arguement.. I wish we had gone to war for oil.. then I wouldn't be paying $2 a gallon... wheres the oil at...
and those "big business" oil men keep alot of food on the tables of alot of people...
right.. what research have you done there... can you actually follow the political speak in those bills?
 
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RedOctober

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This I found on a site, and might be interesting for the coming debates between Bush and Kerry:


The as-yet unspoken, but pivotal issue to be taken up in the upcoming Presidential campaign debates between George W. Bush and John Kerry is the mental illnesses from which President Bush suffers. The most concise and frank, yet compassionate account of George W. Bush's multiple mental disorders can be found in the 2004 book-length study by Bush on the Couch : Inside the Mind of the President - Dr. Justin Frank, (New York: HarperCollins, 2004). Dr. Frank is a leading psychoanalyst who teaches at George Washington University Medical Center. His professional credentials are impressive, and his in-depth study of the President, based on massive amounts of public documentation—autobiographical and biographical accounts, countless hours of video footage of the President, statements by close associates and relatives, spanning nearly the entirety of George W. Bush's lifetime—presents a compelling case that Mr. Bush is in need of medical assistance.

As Dr. Frank summarized the case in his opening chapter, "If one of my patients frequently said one thing and did another, I would want to know why. If I found that he often used words that hid their true meaning and affected a persona that obscured the nature of his actions, I would grow more concerned. If he presented an inflexible worldview characterized by an oversimplified distinction between right and wrong, good and evil, allies and enemies, I would question his ability to grasp reality. And if his actions revealed an unacknowledged—even sadistic—indifference to human suffering, wrapped in pious claims of compassion, I would worry about the safety of the people whose lives he touched. For the past three years, I have observed with increasing alarm the inconsistencies and denials of such an individual. But he is not one of my patients. He is our President."

In his 219-page clinical diagnosis of the President's mental condition, Dr. Frank concluded that Mr. Bush suffers from a range of serious, albeit curable conditions. These include: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD); untreated and uncured alcoholism (what is frequently referred to in lay terms as "dry drunk"); an omnipotence complex; paranoia; an Oedipal Complex; sadism; a mild form of Tourette's Syndrome; and a diminished capacity to distinguish between reality and fantasy.

These diagnosed mental disorders cannot be swept under the rug. The future of the United States and the world is going to be determined by the outcome of the Nov. 2, 2004 U.S. Presidential elections. I urge all Americans to read Dr. Frank's alarming findings. I also call on those responsible for the upcoming Presidential debates, including the candidates themselves, to accept the fact that no serious policy dialogue can take place, until this issue has been addressed, squarely and publicly. The American people have the right to know that the incumbent President, seeking re-election, is plagued by a number of debilitating mental disorders that have already impacted, gravely, on American national security, and have severely damaged some of our most important international partnerships.

In their wisdom, the Members of the U.S. Congress proposed and ratified the Twenty-Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which established the procedures for the President to be removed from office if it is determined that "he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office." In the case of the current President, George W. Bush, we have the advantage of a Presidential election, just weeks away. It would be a grave crime of omission to cover over this admittedly sensitive Constitutional issue, and leave the matter in the hands of a Vice President Dick Cheney, were there to be a Bush-Cheney re-election and a subsequent, inevitable mental breakdown crisis. ...more

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=56422
 

tzedek

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DanGeo23 said:
that isn't a lie.. if you are told something is true by sources you find reputable.. FBI.. CIA.. UN.. France.. blah blah.. and you repeat it.. you aren't lying.. BTW.. you cannot deny that there were never WMDs there.. it is scarier to think we don't know where they are...

haha typical republican arugement that it wasnt bush lying it was someone else fault... :rolleyes:


right.. what research have you done there... can you actually follow the political speak in those bills?

http://www.house.gov/appropriations_democrats/ALLHAT.doc



so are you going to show any proof that bush is an intelligent person???

i didnt do "research" on dubyaspeak that is just a scoreboard for his stupidity. No i cannot deny that they had wmds... that we gave them, but what does that have to with the current war? hahah you can't attack a country becuase of the fact that "they used to have weapons".
 

ReiMeishin

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Bush

Ask nearly any foreign government leader, and they'll tell you that they are hoping to high heaven that Kerry is elected. Who's going to be better for the US? Kerry in the long run. Who's going to be better for the world? Kerry by a longshot.
 
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RedOctober

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Tzedek, I am an old sailor, and proud of it to have served on a brave old Dutch Destroyer.
But when I did read about the Spanish Navy arresting a merchant ship with Scud missiles bound for Jemen, and the Americans decided
to let the ship go... I asked myself...
What lunatics govern America?

Another case was with a ship full of explosives for some African country.
How stupid can you get?