I've heard a lot about them being a great from rather respectable sources....so I decided to dl the newest cd......"Anthem" (i think its the newest)....Anyway this is the most poppy shit i've ever heard...theres only one song worth listening to "Plastic Cup Politics"...So if you've heard their older shit and its any better...let me know, because I want to believe that shit like this isnt getting passed as good music everywhere.