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I am looking to buy a good motherboard for when I get my new tower case for christmas. I don't want to use the same one I have, I want a better one with the latest stuff on it. What is the best place to get a really good one for not so much, maybe from $60 to $100. I also need to know what is the best brand for one too. If anyone can help me there or direct me to a good site with good prices, please help me.
 

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Well, are you running a P4, AMD Athlon XP/64, etc.

I can find you a great board then.
 

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jstager said:
Well, are you running a P4, AMD Athlon XP/64, etc.

I can find you a great board then.
no not on this computer, thats why I need a new motherboard, this one is an intel celeron :thumbsdn:
 

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Cuddles said:
no not on this computer, thats why I need a new motherboard, this one is an intel celeron :thumbsdn:
What type of celeron is it? P3, P4? It'd be easier for us to help, if you offered more information. I agree with the above poster on newegg.com though. Another good place is pricewatch.com, but be objective as to who you purchase from. Occasionally they can't weed out the scammer or less than reputable site in time.
 

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junglizm said:
What type of celeron is it? P3, P4? It'd be easier for us to help, if you offered more information. I agree with the above poster on newegg.com though. Another good place is pricewatch.com, but be objective as to who you purchase from. Occasionally they can't weed out the scammer or less than reputable site in time.
All it says on system properties is that it is an Intel Celeron Processor 462MHz. It is deffinitly not a p3 or p4 for sure...lol. Its too slow for that. Its an older model motherboard and it doesn't even have an AGP Slot which really really sucks ass. Thats why I need a whole new motherboard with a p4 and the latest stuff.
 

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Cuddles said:
All it says on system properties is that it is an Intel Celeron Processor 462MHz. It is deffinitly not a p3 or p4 for sure...lol. Its too slow for that. Its an older model motherboard and it doesn't even have an AGP Slot which really really sucks ass.
That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a p2, it quite possibly could be an older p3. I still have a p3 500Hmz lying around my house. Mine doesn't have an AGP slot either, only PCI.
Cuddles said:
Thats why I need a whole new motherboard with a p4 and the latest stuff.
Well in that case, you should check out the bare bone systems at pricewatch.com. I thought, per your op, that you were only looking for a motherboard. Like I said before though; be objective as to which business you purchase from, as scammers do slip through the cracks from time to time. I use www.resellerratings.com to look up the individual companies. Another good option would be Ebay.

Edit: Barebone systems at pricewatch They have some nice deals, give them a try.
 

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jstager said:
Don't get a P4. They are a ripoff...Trust me...you should get an Athlon XP.

http://www.portatech.com/catalog/viewitem.asp?ID=7659

This one may be a good bet...just don't buy the video/RAM/hard drive from these guys. Those are nasty parts at bad prices...except for the Atlas Precision RAM...that's good...
Ha, I just did today at this pc store a few miles down the road that I never knew existed till I looked in the Phone book. Yah! I got a MSI MICRO - STAR INTERNATIONAL. KT4AV VIA KT400A Chipset Based. Designed for AMD Athlon XP processors. It holds up to 3gigs of DDR memory, AGP8x and 5.1Channel audio for a price of $115.00. Now all I need to get is the AMD XP2600+(333 Bus) for $130.00 and some DDR memory. If you know a better place to get the AMD XP2600+(333 Bus) for less, please please let me know.
 

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Cuddles said:
Ha, I just did today at this pc store a few miles down the road that I never knew existed till I looked in the Phone book. Yah! I got a MSI MICRO - STAR INTERNATIONAL. KT4AV VIA KT400A Chipset Based. Designed for AMD Athlon XP processors. It holds up to 3gigs of DDR memory, AGP8x and 5.1Channel audio for a price of $115.00. Now all I need to get is the AMD XP2600+(333 Bus) for $130.00 and some DDR memory. If you know a better place to get the AMD XP2600+(333 Bus) for less, please please let me know.


I thought those cpus were like $75
 

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Cuddles said:
If you know a better place to get the AMD XP2600+(333 Bus) for less, please please let me know.
We've already told you where to look earlier in this thread, but here are the direct links. Also, that board will likely hold a higher or lower clocked CPU, if you want to spend a few dollars more or less.

2600 (333 FSB) starting at $72:
http://www.pricewatch.com/h/prc.aspx?i=3&a=4976

I can't direct link from newegg, but they have them starting at $90

Edit: Here's a link to the manufacturer's page for your motherboard. It'll take up to an Athlon 3200+ and accepts 200/266/333/400 FSB CPUs.
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=KT4A-V&class=mb

Edit2: That board doesn't look too bad, I'm just not a fan of MSI. ;)
 

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junglizm said:
Edit: Here's a link to the manufacturer's page for your motherboard. It'll take up to an Athlon 3200+ and accepts 200/266/333/400 FSB CPUs.
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=KT4A-V&class=mb

Edit2: That board doesn't look too bad, I'm just not a fan of MSI. ;)
Well the link you gave me is not quit the same exact board. The one on the link has only 2 DDR slots and has no CNR slot. Mine has 3 DDR slots and a CNR slot. Mine also has a VIA K400A Chip, the other one doesn't. This is the one I got: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=KT4AV-L&class=mb
 

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Cuddles said:
Well the link you gave me is not quit the same exact board. The one on the link has only 2 DDR slots and has no CNR slot. Mine has 3 DDR slots and a CNR slot. Mine also has a VIA K400A Chip, the other one doesn't. This is the one I got: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=KT4AV-L&class=mb
Sorry, you posted saying you bought a "KT4AV" and that's what I looked up. Turns out you have a "KT4AV-L". The other one also has the same chipset though. I'd assume that's why they're both labeld as KT400A motherboards. ;)

Your board will still support more or less than a 2600 CPU, and that was my point.

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• Supports Socket A (Socket 462) for AMD® Athlon™ XP/ Athlon™/Duron™ processor
Supports 600MHz up to 3000+ MHz processor and higher
 

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I'm not sure how much they go for nowadays, but it might be worth your extra dollar to save up money and get a socket 939 mobo. I'm particularly fond of the Asus A8V Deluxe MOBO, as it has served me VERY well, and has built in wi-fi functionality and lets your computer double as a CD player, letting you play music with the CD drive even if the computer is OFF! Lots of features and a great overall motherboard, I can't imagine living without it now XD

But if you're not a gamer or don't do any intensive work with computers whatsoever, there's probably another good Asus MOBO you can get for 734 (Not sure if this is the exact number @[email protected]) processors. I find Asus to be good.
 

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Actually, it's Socket 754...

Also, I feel that most people don't even need an A64. It's just excess, an AXP will still haul ass.

If you are looking for a good video card, buy a 9700 Pro here:

http://www.imagestore.us/product.asp?pf_id=HY-RA9700-128P

The 9800 Pro's are not worth the money, unless you want a 256MB card. They only perform about 5-6 fps better, and are nowhere even close to being worth an extra $40.

As for the memory...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-217&depa=1

Mushkin Basic Green. The best of the best, in terms of cheap RAM. Don't buy generic RAM, unless you plan on having shitloads of blue screens and program crashes. Generic RAM is crap, it deserves to be burned.
 

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jstager said:
Actually, it's Socket 754...

Also, I feel that most people don't even need an A64. It's just excess, an AXP will still haul ass.

If you are looking for a good video card, buy a 9700 Pro here:

http://www.imagestore.us/product.asp?pf_id=HY-RA9700-128P

The 9800 Pro's are not worth the money, unless you want a 256MB card. They only perform about 5-6 fps better, and are nowhere even close to being worth an extra $40.

As for the memory...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-217&depa=1

Mushkin Basic Green. The best of the best, in terms of cheap RAM. Don't buy generic RAM, unless you plan on having shitloads of blue screens and program crashes. Generic RAM is crap, it deserves to be burned.

9800 Pro and X800 Pros are definitely worth the money, if you're a fan of games like Doom 3, Halflife 2, and UT2K4. ESPECIALLY UT2K4, because frames can mean the difference between barely losing a match or winning one, in a game as fast paced as UT2K4.

9700 pro, however, will serve you perfectly unless you're a hardcore FPS player and need every performance boost you can get.
 

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Venom said:
9800 Pro and X800 Pros are definitely worth the money, if you're a fan of games like Doom 3, Halflife 2, and UT2K4. ESPECIALLY UT2K4, because frames can mean the difference between barely losing a match or winning one, in a game as fast paced as UT2K4.

Are you kidding me? A mere 5-6 fps cannot justify spending an extra $40. At $6.66 a frame, seems like a ripoff, don't it?

UT2004 Benchmarks (9700 PRO AHEAD BY .6 FPS):

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-06.html

CoD Benchmarks (6 FPS DIFFERENCE):

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-07.html

Doom 3 Benchmarks (5 FPS DIFFERENCE):

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-08.html

Far Cry Benchmarks (5 FPS DIFFERENCE)

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-09.html

Now please, tell me, is it really worth the extra $40 now? Also, this is done with the old Catalyst 4.9 drivers, and the current version is the 4.12 Beta.

Cuddles, be sure to install the latest drivers from www.ati.com when you buy that card! It will perform MUCH slower if you don't, by maybe 25-35%, and Doom 3 will run about 200% slower.

If you are feeling up to it, Google "Download Catalyst 4.12 Beta Drivers" if the final 4.12's are not out by the time that card comes in the mail.