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My 939 upgrade

Jung

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I'm going to be upgrading to a socket 939 A64 in a few weeks to a month; I'm posting this for suggestions and recommendations. The case and video card are a must; I need a new case to transplant my old PC into, and I need a PCI-e video card. I'll be trading my AGP 6800GT for a 6600GT and some cash when I upgrade. I'm up to suggestions on everything else, as well as specific CPU/GPUs.


Motherboard:
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail - $135

Memory:
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail - $238

Processor:
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Venice Integrated into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - OEM - $373
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AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego Integrated into Chip FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail - $481

Graphics:
SAPPHIRE 100103SR-RD Radeon X850XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - $459
or
Leadtek PX6800GT TDH Geforce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail - $378

Drives:
Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM - $166
Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3300831AS 300GB 7200 RPM 8M Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM - $187

Case:
COOLER MASTER CAVALIER 3 CAV-T03-UW Silver Aluminum/Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $56.50
or
CHENMING CMU-S-602-BK Black/grey Steel Server Computer Case - $56.50


Total:
$1346 - 3800 and 6800GT, no 300GB HD
$1666 - 4000, x850 and 300GB HD - ($1479 w/out 300GB HD)
 

BrIONwoshMunky

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The Raptor Hdd, is the only piece of Hardware I can safely comment on.

I personally can attest to it's lightning quick seektimes. Pulling up the My Music folder used to take a couple of seconds, but seems almost instantaneous with the Raptor. For a short time I ran both of mine as seperate drives before configuring them in a RAID 0 array. The performance gain can be seen when loading levels in games. Horrifically long load times can be greatly decreased by using one, or two, of these drives.

Good choice I say. But if my opinion holds any merit, I haven't a clue.
 

Jung

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I still can't decide if I should get a second Raptor or the 300GB drive. I suck at being decisive. :cry:
 

BrIONwoshMunky

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If you are looking at another Raptor for the RAID 0 advantage, I personally don't see one. Although I'm sure it's there somewhere, I just don't see it.

I'm sure you realize your needs dictate which drive would be best suited to you.
 

Jung

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I see no point in running RAID on a gaming PC, it only increases your chances of losing all of your data, so that's not an issue. I don't really need the extra 300GB of space, but it would be nice. I do like to keep my OS and games/programs separate though. Maybe I'll get a 36GB Raptor for Windows and some applications and a 74GB one for games and other apps.
 

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The MSI's a good board but is UATX. I'd personally just get a Chaintech VNF4/Ultra and a cheaper non-UATX case of similar quality. If you want an idea of how big a UATX board is, is makes my Dual Socket A board which I'm saving for a second build look like a rodent. And even that thing has some trouble fitting in my MGE Viper, which is just fucking huge. I'd personally link you to a good picture of it but the new MGE Viper they have listed is redesigned and is so ugly I'm making a gutteral sound as I'm typing.

The VNF4/Ultra comes with an active cooler now, the passive ones are sold out for a reason: they crippled the board's OCing potential. I knew a guy on OffTopic before I got banned by eTicket109, who's clearly a freaking nazi. He adored the thing - never had an issue and it was stable and rock solid.

The board had no issues besides that at launch. But if I were you I'd stay away from Abit, they've been pretty flaky as of late in terms of performance and reliability. My friend Ken had his Abit literally pop and BSOD four days after recieving his Alienware. It works now but still can be a scary thought.

Personally I'm very fond of my Chaintech 7NIL1, and it never gives me sass. It keeps up with my bro's Asus A7N8XE-Deluxe in many departments.

Even if you don't want to give Chaintech a go, just get a non-UATX board anyway. You'll thank me in the end. They're the size of a bus with a case to match.
 

BrIONwoshMunky

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I just noticed your RAM. Good stuff the XMS stuff is. I'm sporting 1 gig of it. Freakin awesome. :thumbsup: Good form.
 

Jung

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Descent said:
The MSI's a good board but is UATX. I'd personally just get a Chaintech VNF4/Ultra and a cheaper non-UATX case of similar quality.
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Everything I've read says it's a regular ATX motherboard. It's only slightly larger than the Chaintech too.

Chaintech: ATX 12.0" x 8.6"
Neo4: ATX 12.0" x 9.6"

Also, if you would've read my post, you'd know that I'm only ordering a case to move my old PC parts into. I'll be using my Lian Li case for this PC.
 

Shine

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Check the new NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX out. It's capable of hi-def, and is faster than a dualslot 6800.
 

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Shine said:
Check the new NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX out. It's capable of hi-def, and is faster than a dualslot 6800.
The other cards based off NV40 are capable of HD. It makes sense since the 7800-series is based off the NV40-line, just a few tweaks to the architecture. Additional details can be found in Beyond3D's review. It is NOT as fast as 6800Ultra-SLI in all cases. It' usually falls somewhere between the 6800Ultra and the 6800Ultra-SLI when HDR isn't involved.
 

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Go with the Raptor. I've have bad experience with Seagate hd's getting corrupted + Seagate does a lot of overseas offshoring, donkey-raping-shit-eaters.
 

Descent

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Whoops, my bad. I was tired when I posted that and read nForce4 Ultra ATX as nForce4 Ultra ATX.

My bad - carry on. I've slept great as of late and feel slammin'.