Ok, I've often wondered why communism is sometimes referred to as the route of all evil. Why would countries bother conforming to communist ideals if it were so evil? So please tell me, from preferably an American point of view, what is so bad about communism? and I'm betting you can't come up with an argument that rectifies the vietnam war.
Headlines OK, so tell me...
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There's nothing wrong with communism. There's something wrong with the excuse for communism that was in practice for a while.
You challenge us to tell you what's so bad... I challenge you to provide us with a pure, working example of communism. You can't. The reason why is numbers, of course. Communism wouldn't work in a group larger than 300, at the most. 100 is way more realistic. And we simply can't do that.
So, to answer your question, communism is referred to as the root of all evil because, where it's been implemented, it has led to evil. That's not the fault of communism, though, it's the fault of individuals.
You challenge us to tell you what's so bad... I challenge you to provide us with a pure, working example of communism. You can't. The reason why is numbers, of course. Communism wouldn't work in a group larger than 300, at the most. 100 is way more realistic. And we simply can't do that.
So, to answer your question, communism is referred to as the root of all evil because, where it's been implemented, it has led to evil. That's not the fault of communism, though, it's the fault of individuals.
i would like to point out that a true communist system has never been truley acheived.
communism: A classless society with no exploitation. No state machine used by one section of the population to oppress another section. No need for professional armies or police forces. No use of production for profit or exchange. Society runs in accord with the principle: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
communism: A classless society with no exploitation. No state machine used by one section of the population to oppress another section. No need for professional armies or police forces. No use of production for profit or exchange. Society runs in accord with the principle: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
Ummm, I think Money is the Root of all evil. Never heard that about communism.Finch said:
Anyway, there is nothing wrong with communism, it is a really cool "idea". Unfortunately, it goes against human nature, survival of the fittest, and all that. It has never succeded, nor will it ever in it's true form.
correction...woman are the root of all evil..
Woman = Time * Money
We all know that time is money...
time = money
woman = money * money
woman = (money)^2
We also know that money is the root of all evil,
correct?
money = sqrt(evil)
woman = [sqrt(evil)]^2
Hence,
woman = evil
Woman = Time * Money
We all know that time is money...
time = money
woman = money * money
woman = (money)^2
We also know that money is the root of all evil,
correct?
money = sqrt(evil)
woman = [sqrt(evil)]^2
Hence,
woman = evil
Communism in itself is not a bad thing. If it worked then it would be ideal. The problem is that it does not represent the human condition. People like to have ambition... some reason to work hard. Communism takes that away. If everyone is equal how do you excel at something? But the biggest problem is that the people at the top of the foodchain in communist nations become tyrants because they have ALL the power. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely. If you turn people into worker bees for to long it stops working unless you put fear into them. People sould not have to fear the government its not the way it should work. But in EVERY single case of Communist countrys the only way the Government lasts is by subjagating its populace through force and fear. That is bad.
The vietnam war had nothing to do with opposing communism per se....it was sold to the public by the dominoe effect theory. If one state falls to communism then they all will (hence dominoe). Americans feared russia because they were the only Gov't that could oppose us bullet for nulet man to man. In vietnam we were basically fighting the russians...there are numerous accounts fo dogfights with "round eye" NVA pilots flying MIG 21's. It was a proving ground...a test war you could say. USA lost 58,000 soldiers from 1959-1975. Over 3 million vietnamese were killed on both sides. We learned that jungle warfare is a bitch...and the Rusisians learned that we would not stand by and let them take over the world. And in the end we out spent the russians, something a capatilist society is without peer at. Oh and by the way we technically one that war because the NVA surrendered and signed the Paris treaty....but they broke it an invaded s.vietnam again later.
Did I justify it no...but how can you justify anywar? People are just puppets to a government...but in the American government wars are fought to better the populace...in communism its used to keep the heads of state in power.
The vietnam war had nothing to do with opposing communism per se....it was sold to the public by the dominoe effect theory. If one state falls to communism then they all will (hence dominoe). Americans feared russia because they were the only Gov't that could oppose us bullet for nulet man to man. In vietnam we were basically fighting the russians...there are numerous accounts fo dogfights with "round eye" NVA pilots flying MIG 21's. It was a proving ground...a test war you could say. USA lost 58,000 soldiers from 1959-1975. Over 3 million vietnamese were killed on both sides. We learned that jungle warfare is a bitch...and the Rusisians learned that we would not stand by and let them take over the world. And in the end we out spent the russians, something a capatilist society is without peer at. Oh and by the way we technically one that war because the NVA surrendered and signed the Paris treaty....but they broke it an invaded s.vietnam again later.
Did I justify it no...but how can you justify anywar? People are just puppets to a government...but in the American government wars are fought to better the populace...in communism its used to keep the heads of state in power.
what about china? its constantly reforming, growing and expanding..
I think china could be an succesful communist system in the future, maybe ten years from now.
soon, they are gonna buy real weapons.
tzedek said:
This is true. communism was a great Ideal led by terrible people. I actually prefer communism and unitarism over democracy, however, we have yet to find a soul pure enough that could rule a communist or unitarist society without prejudice, dictatorship and thirst for ultimate power.
Oh, welll I guess that is true of democracy too.
Mao would turn over in his grave if he saw what China looked like today. It gets more capitalistic all the time...johnny kuntz said:
I gues your right, its not true communism anymore..voiceofreason said:
btw:
you know whats funny? getting bad rep for giving an opinion.
thanks nobody! 
In the USA you print "in god we trust" on the money. I soviet russia, we aint got no money.
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