Ok so you can track cars equipped with onstar by satellites but you can't track a fucking plane. Great, makes so much sense.
im pretty sure that the cars are sending messages back too. its not just the satelite sending messages to the car.RageAgainst said:Ok so you can track cars equipped with onstar by satellites but you can't track a fucking plane. Great, makes so much sense.
And your coat. But not your glasses. And you can't lock your luggage when you travel. Because they pay the baggage handlers jack diddly shit so we can trust them not to fuck with our stuff.voiceofreason said:But we have spent several billion dollars to make sure everyone takes their shoes off before they get on the plane...
Our tax dollars at work...
_Kitana_ said:Thanks for the link to flash i been looking for this video forever. This is something that scared me, cause i thought the same thing when it first happened. I wonder if the pane had blown up... If it had bombs on it. I seen the planes hit the trade centers, i seen the crash plane on the ground heading for the white house.
No way could they get a missile on the plane...
I am almost certain that our government would not attack itself. It simply not economically feasible. Nor would they use it for a reason to attack Saddam when they didn't link it to him. To say that Osama bin Laden is falsified is a joke as well. Since the man is known to exist and has tons of money. You would have to say that this conspiracy has been going on for a huge number of years with tons of different presidents. That is to many people knowing about the plan for it to be affective and kept secret. I mean that theory doesn’t hold water…
Where is this plane? Did the hijacker decided “hey I don't want to die” and land it somewhere else? Are these people being held hostage ? Why is the government being so hush hush about it? Was this part of the terrorist plans?
If the terrorist are trying to trick the government, is our president and government just playing along… to keep hidden a deep secret hidden mission. Why would the terrorist even want a plane or it’s passengers? Were they trying to hold them hostage against our government and the US had to let them die…. ? What hit the building then?
My guess is that the terrorist used a pretty powerful weapon that our government doesn’t want to tell the us they have for some reason. Maybe for our own protection who to say? Maybe if they gave out details like this it would harm America more or maybe it wouldn’t. Something defiantly hit the pentagon… and it didn’t come from America or it’s government. First off the pentagon would not attack itself….
FWNED!jam6549 said:what hit it then?
edit: ever heard of landing, dumbass
EdIt: You could try making your point without the name calling. Or is name calling the only way you know how to debate? Lets keep that shit in Bait & Tackle.
Guys I have an ingenius idea. The internet has tons of ways to search for people. I say we put them to use....RageAgainst said:some people say f-16.. or a missile.. definitely not a boeing 757.
Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.
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Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."
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Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.
Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.
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Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THESE PEOPLE
i would love to argue that with you since your only argument is "common sense", but last time i argued this it went on for pagestzedek said:anyone with half a shred of common sense can tell a plane didnt hit that building. this thread is pointless
Perhaps this thread will have the honor of being longer than the thread where Cuddles showed her boobies?WizardlyFriend said:i would love to argue that with you since your only argument is "common sense", but last time i argued this it went on for pages