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Racism, WTF.com and you.
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I'm not a mod, but the forum rules do specifically prohibit racist statements. In American language and society it is usually assumed the anyone besides a black person using it is racially slurring Africans. However when a African-American uses it, it can many ambiguous and/or generic contexts. However, many black Americans do not approve black usage of the word because they believe it demeans African Americans. Because this forum is operated mainly by Americans on a (presumably) US based server, it is probable that American society's norms will be applied. With that said, I would recommend avoiding it even if you are black, because they is no effective way for someone's e-black to be confirmed.
Racism
- The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
******
- Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people.
Now, these terms don't match up. Why would you assume I was a racist if I simply called someone a '******'?
- The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
******
- Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people.
Now, these terms don't match up. Why would you assume I was a racist if I simply called someone a '******'?
I just gave what I believe the general consensus in America is. What Webster says often disagrees with what people think. The folks who write dictionaries are mainly English graduades, not History or Socieology grads. Besides, look the origin of the words. They'll give clues as to who might gets pissed if called that.
Well thanks for the definitions there, Encyclopedia Brown. I'm sure none of us knew the definitions of either until your informative post.
Seriously though, I know it could be a case of context, but you're still playing with fire. It's up to the mod/admin's discretion, and if you get banned for it it'll likely stick. Common sense tells you that the most common usage of the word is as a racial slur, and honestly I don't see any fitting uses of it outside of that. Maybe you're more creative than I though.
Bottom line, if you don't want to get banned for it, then just don't use it. If not saying it online has you that troubled, then maybe you should learn some new words.
Seriously though, I know it could be a case of context, but you're still playing with fire. It's up to the mod/admin's discretion, and if you get banned for it it'll likely stick. Common sense tells you that the most common usage of the word is as a racial slur, and honestly I don't see any fitting uses of it outside of that. Maybe you're more creative than I though.
Bottom line, if you don't want to get banned for it, then just don't use it. If not saying it online has you that troubled, then maybe you should learn some new words.
I'm not trying to imply that I wish to use it.
I was just reading in another forum and everyone got taboo when someone called someone else a '******'.
I found it inane that so many would be ok with all the pointless 'bitching' and flaming and yet so upset at one stupid six letter word.
I would bet most of you laugh when you hear Dave Chappelle using it.
I was just reading in another forum and everyone got taboo when someone called someone else a '******'.
I found it inane that so many would be ok with all the pointless 'bitching' and flaming and yet so upset at one stupid six letter word.
I would bet most of you laugh when you hear Dave Chappelle using it.
I laugh my ass off when Dave Chappell, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy or Richard Prior say just about anything.
It's certainly a valid question you have. I think it is dumb and wrong that words like fuck, shit, dick, pussy are censored. But a lot people believe it making those words taboo is the right thing to do.
It's certainly a valid question you have. I think it is dumb and wrong that words like fuck, shit, dick, pussy are censored. But a lot people believe it making those words taboo is the right thing to do.
Well, the wrong person saying in real life would likely get their ass beat. Online it's a bit more tricky, especially since we can't immediately tell your race or nationality. Personally, I see no reason I'd ever need to use the word. It's just plain racist, and I'm not. I suppose my white friends might not mind, and maybe a few of my black friends would find it cute or something, but I still don't like it. Likewise I don't go around calling people "kike" or "spic," even if in a joking manner. I'm ot racist, nor do I wish to offend people by using racial slurs. I doubt you can point out one legitimate use of the word though.
As for the Chappelle thing, it's comedy and he's black. I don't mind if he says it, although I think it's counter productive. [I think it's confusing for some people, and possibly sends the message that it's ok for some to us it, but not others. Personally I think it's racist to imply that one race can use it but not another, but that's the socially acceptable use of it. Oh well.] I also think that his usage of the word is mostly tongue in cheek. Chappelle, and Prior, are just funny people, I'm laughing at their humor, not their usage of the word.
As for the Chappelle thing, it's comedy and he's black. I don't mind if he says it, although I think it's counter productive. [I think it's confusing for some people, and possibly sends the message that it's ok for some to us it, but not others. Personally I think it's racist to imply that one race can use it but not another, but that's the socially acceptable use of it. Oh well.] I also think that his usage of the word is mostly tongue in cheek. Chappelle, and Prior, are just funny people, I'm laughing at their humor, not their usage of the word.
Goatstack said:
I'm just thrown off by the irony of this site. 
I don't see why another man or woman should be degraded just for being born a certain color. It's just ridiculous and ignorant, online or off. I wouldn't put up with friends saying it in real life, and I'll perma-ban anyone who says it here.
This has been drawn out too long already, and I hope you've received your clarification. I'll leave this open for now incase anyone has anything to add. I think we're beyond the point of disputing this though.
Let's simplify the already simple concept for you.
In the event a member verbally attacks another member, in a manner inconsistent with racial tolerance policies. The management reserves the right to make a case-by-case determination, on the intent of the language used. If the intent of said dialogue, was deemed malicious in nature; the management reserves the right to take disciplinary action including but not limited to subjecting the offensive member public ridicule, Cock Farming ®, or permanent banning.
Have fun but don't put an eye out.
In the event a member verbally attacks another member, in a manner inconsistent with racial tolerance policies. The management reserves the right to make a case-by-case determination, on the intent of the language used. If the intent of said dialogue, was deemed malicious in nature; the management reserves the right to take disciplinary action including but not limited to subjecting the offensive member public ridicule, Cock Farming ®, or permanent banning.
Have fun but don't put an eye out.
Speaking as a black person, I personally do not mind the use of the word by any race, as long as it's not used in a demeaning manner. Fuck, I'll laugh at you.
If you read the FAQ though, it says that this site was once sort of lenient on it, but they gave an inch and some of you took a mile, so you get what you earn. Now no one can say it.
If you read the FAQ though, it says that this site was once sort of lenient on it, but they gave an inch and some of you took a mile, so you get what you earn. Now no one can say it.
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