In a situation where the loss of human lives due to the sacrifice would still be worth it compared to what it would've been without it.dull_bullet said:how the hell can ANY sacrifice be worth it? people dying is not worth anything.
Exactly. Even worse, what has he accomplished so far in Iraq, other than Chaos? Jackshit. Yes, there is democracy now in Iraq, but SO FUCKING WHAT??? The war is over and the death toll is still steady high, 2 years after.Paris said:I think that Bush statment is very mean. The mens lives where not worth it, and I am not just talking about the American ones, I also mean the brave men from other counties that beleived in Bush and his crazy ideals.
As An American and a Former member of the military.. I say this to you.. I am sorry that Bush was re-elected, and that he has caused the world such suffering. I wish that the men would return to the U.S and other countires around the world.
I can't believe that he had the balls to say such a statment.
The problem with this topic is that people can't figure out what they want to argue about. Let me help you out...maybe you guys can focus the hate and discontent a little better in the next thread. If you want to argue that Bush is an ass...then go ahead, you have plenty of ammunition. If you want to argue that we (America) kinda screwed the pooch when we invaded Iraq, then go ahead...that is also a valid argument, even though it's been repeated ad nauseum. However, if you're going to argue that less people would have died, check your sources. It's possible that less people would have died, but it's also possible that the phrase "less people" is somewhat of a misnomer because nobody would give a shit about dead people in Iraq if they weren't trying to prove a point. There are political ways of dealling with rogue leaders, true...but you gotta wonder if those methods would have honestly worked with that wacko. I mean, let's be honest.RageAgainst said:Now in the Iraq situation, a shitload less people would've died if the Americans wouldn't have invaded. Even on the long term, the world would've been better off with no invasion at all. There are diplomatic ways to deal with rogue leaders, but the Bush administration denied the legitimity of international law and because of them, 1. Lots of people died ; 2. Internation law lost some credibility ; 3. The Middle-east in general dislikes the US even more.
Associated Press:voiceofreason said:
Lest we forget what we in the U.S. are causing EVERYDAY...
You are very naieve.Paris said:I think that Bush statment is very mean. The mens lives where not worth it, and I am not just talking about the American ones, I also mean the brave men from other counties that beleived in Bush and his crazy ideals.