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void

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I have a proposal.
Take away the vote from everyone, absolutely everyone.

but retain the democracy.. how? i'll try and explain how..
whenever you do anything these days you are profiled, if you buy a new car it puts you into a consumer demographic, if you do well at a certain subject it puts you in a certain stream at school, if you do well at work it goes onto your work record.. everything we do (in public) is documented and can be callibrated. That would result in a pretty accurate profile of the person.
example;
person 1 buys a toyota prius, shops at the wholefood market, went to university and graduated with honors and has been promoted every year for the past five years.
person 2 bought a hummer, went to 'online' university, eats out every night..
we would be right to assume they are very different people.
and we could match their characteristics with those of presidential candidates with sympathetic values/policies.
ah, do you get it now?
rather than letting people vote for who they think they want in office, or who they are told to vote for by church, or by purely racial demographic, or on that single issue that so angers them.. we make voting automatic based on your profile, we would have 100% turn out and absolute representation.

i guess only the republcans would have issue with it when they finally realise more than half the country aren't bigoted zealots and gradually the word liberal stops being an insult.
 

ChilianFuckFace

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It would be easier for someone to make up stats. Create fake stats and win the elections.

I rather make it a mandatory election. However, before you vote; you must take a 2 hour class on it. Everyone! They give you a number, and with this number you vote. If you didn't take the class, you go to jail. If you didn't vote, you go to jail.
 
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You have just as much of a right to not vote as you have a right to vote. If someone tried to put me in jail in an attempt to make me vote, I'd kill myself right now.
 

ChilianFuckFace

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TheLampIncident said:
You have just as much of a right to not vote as you have a right to vote. If someone tried to put me in jail in an attempt to make me vote, I'd kill myself right now.
Well, it's your duty as a citizen to participate in the countries decisions. It's basically the same thing as jury dury.
 
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I refuse to vote for anybody until this stupid bi-partisan bickering stops and people try to work on compromise solutions to problems.
 

ChilianFuckFace

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How about a pre-election. Where you vote for candidates? Then out of the selected few, we vote again for a president?

Because I must agree with you. We haven't had any good options...
 
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A pre-election where you vote for candidates? Isn't that called a primary election?

Of course, there's only primaries within parties. But we're too far into the political party trap to get anyone in office who's worth a shit anyway. Just someone who won by making their opponent look bad.

And as for the issues...there are no facts anymore. People twist around the facts to their favor all the time. Conservatives say liberals are liars and liberals say conservatives are liars, and I say if they weren't all a bunch of god damn liars, they wouldn't be trying to pin that label on someone else.
 

littleone

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void said:
I have a proposal.
Take away the vote from everyone, absolutely everyone.

but retain the democracy.. how? i'll try and explain how..
whenever you do anything these days you are profiled, if you buy a new car it puts you into a consumer demographic, if you do well at a certain subject it puts you in a certain stream at school, if you do well at work it goes onto your work record.. everything we do (in public) is documented and can be callibrated. That would result in a pretty accurate profile of the person.
example;
person 1 buys a toyota prius, shops at the wholefood market, went to university and graduated with honors and has been promoted every year for the past five years.
person 2 bought a hummer, went to 'online' university, eats out every night..
we would be right to assume they are very different people.
and we could match their characteristics with those of presidential candidates with sympathetic values/policies.
ah, do you get it now?
rather than letting people vote for who they think they want in office, or who they are told to vote for by church, or by purely racial demographic, or on that single issue that so angers them.. we make voting automatic based on your profile, we would have 100% turn out and absolute representation.

i guess only the republcans would have issue with it when they finally realise more than half the country aren't bigoted zealots and gradually the word liberal stops being an insult.
So, if you buy porn and go to the abortion clinic all the time, that will put your vote towards?

See, this is chipping at the old civil rights block. People, a lot of people, will be upset. Some people are buying things, doing things behind closed doors that they don't want anyone to know about. And they might want to vote for someone who is against those actions. What then? They are doing something wrong. They're hiding something about themselves. But they still have the right to vote for who ever the hell they want to, right? Even if the person that they're voting for are not supporting the "hidden" part of the voter's life.

I agree though. This whole voting thing, people will vote for those who they think have a cooler name or something that is not based on what they will be doing in office. So, essentially, this is a kick-ass idea. If it wasn't for people with their fucking defense mechanisms, damn reaction formation.
 

SilentHunter

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well, what would happen when they do it on me an atheist anarchast who bought a 500 dollar car and eats raymen noodles 4 times a day?
 

void

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SilentHunter said:
well, what would happen when they do it on me an atheist anarchast who bought a 500 dollar car and eats raymen noodles 4 times a day?
hi silent, welcome back. hope you're ok after recent events. :)

the solution here is (drum roll please) more than two fucking candidates..
maybe 8 would over most generalisations of character?
 

Siryus

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void said:
I have a proposal.
Take away the vote from everyone, absolutely everyone.

but retain the democracy.. how? i'll try and explain how..
whenever you do anything these days you are profiled, if you buy a new car it puts you into a consumer demographic, if you do well at a certain subject it puts you in a certain stream at school, if you do well at work it goes onto your work record.. everything we do (in public) is documented and can be callibrated. That would result in a pretty accurate profile of the person.
example;
person 1 buys a toyota prius, shops at the wholefood market, went to university and graduated with honors and has been promoted every year for the past five years.
person 2 bought a hummer, went to 'online' university, eats out every night..
we would be right to assume they are very different people.
and we could match their characteristics with those of presidential candidates with sympathetic values/policies.
ah, do you get it now?
rather than letting people vote for who they think they want in office, or who they are told to vote for by church, or by purely racial demographic, or on that single issue that so angers them.. we make voting automatic based on your profile, we would have 100% turn out and absolute representation.

i guess only the republcans would have issue with it when they finally realise more than half the country aren't bigoted zealots and gradually the word liberal stops being an insult.
Well Void, thats a very interesting proposal, but when you take away our right to vote for who WE think is the right canadate, and make it so the goverment or a computer decides who they think we would want to vote for, you start to infrenge on democracy itsself, see the fact that we can vote for whomever, even if he is a greedy narcissistic idiot, is what makes this country great! Making profiles of everone would not help anyone, what would stop the canadates from looking at these statistics and molding their campain strategy to fit the winning statistics, for the sole porpose of winning the election, only to flip flop once they win the election, and if they did somehow keep the statistics secrete, how would we know they actually truely represented us correctly? I am glad that you are thinking of ways to better our country, which is more then I can say for many narrow minded citizens I know around here. But, I just don't think your idea would work. I think that if we went by popular vote, instead of the Electoral collage we have Implemented at the moment, we might get a better representation of what this nation really thinks about our canadates.
 

vIoLeNcE0969

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Originally Posted by void
I have a proposal.
Take away the vote from everyone, absolutely everyone.

but retain the democracy.. how? i'll try and explain how..
whenever you do anything these days you are profiled, if you buy a new car it puts you into a consumer demographic, if you do well at a certain subject it puts you in a certain stream at school, if you do well at work it goes onto your work record.. everything we do (in public) is documented and can be callibrated. That would result in a pretty accurate profile of the person.
example;
person 1 buys a toyota prius, shops at the wholefood market, went to university and graduated with honors and has been promoted every year for the past five years.
person 2 bought a hummer, went to 'online' university, eats out every night..
we would be right to assume they are very different people.
and we could match their characteristics with those of presidential candidates with sympathetic values/policies.
ah, do you get it now?
rather than letting people vote for who they think they want in office, or who they are told to vote for by church, or by purely racial demographic, or on that single issue that so angers them.. we make voting automatic based on your profile, we would have 100% turn out and absolute representation.

i guess only the republcans would have issue with it when they finally realise more than half the country aren't bigoted zealots and gradually the word liberal stops being an insult.

how about the canidates do absolutly no campaining. we could just have the government mail us a letter of whos running for canidate and you can do your own research about the canidates.

that would stop the assholes from spreading lies and it was also enable other regualar citenzens who arent rich to run for a spot.
 

Farceur

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vIoLeNcE0969 said:
how about the canidates do absolutly no campaining. we could just have the government mail us a letter of whos running for canidate and you can do your own research about the canidates.

that would stop the assholes from spreading lies and it was also enable other regualar citenzens who arent rich to run for a spot.
a good idea, except for your assumption that people aren't apathetic simpletons... then again, if the above were the case it would be safe to assume that most of the lazy simpletons wouldn't vote, meaning only the semi-intelligent to the intelligent are represented...

which in turn means that intelligence may reign over the country... which would be a considerable turn around from our current situation.
 
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What you are suggesting has already happened. It's called Comunisim, and while on paper its sounds like a perfect idea, but when you put it into action you end up with the USSR, China, and North Korea. Taking away peoples voice all be it very seldom listened to would put all the power in the hands of the few and to quote Lord Acton "Power tends to corrupt: Absolute power corrupts absolutely." So dont get me wrong your idea is a great one just it has been done before and has been proven to fail upon implementation.
 
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take an intelligence test before you vote...or, give everyone a chart with the major candidates proposals if he wins presidency. A nice easy to read chart or packet, with consequences of the presidents polices...if you follow...


my small 2 cents....
 

mmm...cheese

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TheLampIncident said:
You have just as much of a right to not vote as you have a right to vote. If someone tried to put me in jail in an attempt to make me vote, I'd kill myself right now.
Sorta, it would complicate things. Because one might have a very ligitimate excuse for not voting. Also, as previously stated, the stats could be changed, therefore imprisoning you for not.
 
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void said:
I have a proposal.
Take away the vote from everyone, absolutely everyone.

but retain the democracy.. how? i'll try and explain how..
whenever you do anything these days you are profiled, if you buy a new car it puts you into a consumer demographic, if you do well at a certain subject it puts you in a certain stream at school, if you do well at work it goes onto your work record.. everything we do (in public) is documented and can be callibrated. That would result in a pretty accurate profile of the person.
example;
person 1 buys a toyota prius, shops at the wholefood market, went to university and graduated with honors and has been promoted every year for the past five years.
person 2 bought a hummer, went to 'online' university, eats out every night..
we would be right to assume they are very different people.
and we could match their characteristics with those of presidential candidates with sympathetic values/policies.
ah, do you get it now?
rather than letting people vote for who they think they want in office, or who they are told to vote for by church, or by purely racial demographic, or on that single issue that so angers them.. we make voting automatic based on your profile, we would have 100% turn out and absolute representation.

i guess only the republcans would have issue with it when they finally realise more than half the country aren't bigoted zealots and gradually the word liberal stops being an insult.
Don't worry void that is what the electorial college is for <sarcasm>..People are not numbers and statistics mean nothing in reality.

And papers that the government sends voters in the mail to research candidates..are you people insane? Propoganda city..we only live in the suburbs as it is now. We all would be choked by pollution.
 

Devien

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why not make it so that people will vote against the right wing option by default unless they go to the polling station and vote for it? :)