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Fringe The Growth Of The United States Police State Since 9/11

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In the last ten years, especially after September 11, 2001, our country has changed drastically. The signing of the Patriot Act started a downward spiral into a complete and total takeover of our constitution and way of life. A total “police state” if you will. Criminal elements of our government have us believe that Al Qaeda is hiding under our beds and closets and they will jump out and attack us when least expected. Did you know that our government helped form Al-Qaeda in the 1970′s and our government is helping them in their bid to control the Middle East? The same “enemies” of the U.S. that we are supposed to be afraid of, the same people that perpetrated 9/11, work alongside our own government in the Middle East.

Our government is historically known for running “false flag” operations to expand and perpetuate the police state. A set of papers called the Northwoods Documents called for false flag operations to get the U.S. involved with Cuba. You can read the documents here. Most recently, the implementation of the body scanners in the airports via the Christmas Day “underware bomber” was observed by the Detroit lawyer Kurt Haskell. The threat of terrorists on our planes, and now in our movie theaters, gets the public on board with the ever increasing surveillance and police presence in our daily lives. It’s an easy way to get the American people to go along with the government’s corrupt agenda.

This total control grid may have started in the airports through the newly knighted Transportation Security Administration, but the role of this new governmental agency is now expanding into other arenas. The ultimate goal of the creation of the TSA is to take on the role of the Gestapo for the New World Order here in the United States. They are an abomination that was put into place to control us into submission. Almost every day there are stories exposing the corrupt and incompetent people who work for them.

The TSA was created on November 19, 2001. Former President Bush signed into law the Aviation and Transportation Security Act (ATSA) which among other things established the Transportation Security Administration, within the Department of Transportation. This is being used to control us and make us accustomed to search and seizure, to submit to an non-elected authority, all part of the creation of a police state. I won’t fly, I drive to my different destinations. Besides, what better way to enjoy this beautiful country than by driving? The sights are beautiful, especially here in the Southwest. Although, the last time I drove from San Diego to Phoenix I was pulled over by the Border Patrol. Not at a checkpoint, on the open road. It seems they believed I came from Mexico (Tijuana) and was smuggling drugs. I said I don’t work for the CIA or use their product. I received the crazy stare from them (there was 8 of them for 1 of me). They found 200 pesos, (I’m surprised they didn’t confiscate it) two large jars of salt with lavender inside and my travel bag. This lasted around 15 minutes and throughout the ordeal, I stated I don’t use the government’s drugs nor do I transport or sell it. A couple of the border patrol troopers laughed, while a couple other sneered at me, this would have NEVER happened ten, even five years ago. To be stopped in the middle of nowhere and asked to be searched is absolutely amazing. How was I singled out? They never told me why they pulled me over, even though I asked. Driving will become difficult soon enough.

The TSA will have VIPR units on the roads in the near future. And believe it or not, this is setting the tables for the evidential world government that has been talked about on and off for the last 50 years now. It has been accelerating at a quickening pace for the last 5 years. I guess the government knows best, I’ll just stay inside, where it’s safe from any terrorists and live a non existing life, hiding from everyone. I’ll hide under the bed. Oh that’s right, Al Qaeda is under there, or so the government has told me. The TSA is expanding their presence to malls, train stations, bus stations and sports stadiums, anywhere they feel there is a terrorist threat. Is there really a threat of terrorism at a prom? Does the government really believe Al Qaeda is going to be at a prom?

How did Americans allow this to happen? How did we allow control freaks to touch our children? If I were in the airport and a TSA pedophile was groping a child, I would have to do physical harm to them. Children in today’s world have it tough enough, but to have some stranger-danger-control-freak touch your kid is enough to make me do some physical damage to that person. How did we allow this to happen? S l e e p, s l e e p, s l e e p, we were lulled to sleep by the threat of the Middle East terrorist who supposedly hates baseball, apple pie and the USA. So we accepted the TSA and the groping and naked body scanners in the name of patriotic duty and safety.

Here is a quote by Hermann Goering that he made during the Nuremberg trials:

Göring: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.

Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

The US government has manipulated the American people into believing that terrorism is a threat to us and if you don’t believe, then you are a conspiracy theorist! The TSA has even been sent to the 2012 Olympics in London. We hear the constant drumbeat almost every day that terrorists are out to get us, Al Qaeda will get us, domestic terrorists will get us, and everything and everyone will get us! They even announced the tattletale, rat on your neighbors program.

If we don’t stand up as one voice and denounce the TSA, they will spread their tentacles and cover the entire country by air, sea, and land and there will be no stopping them, ever. We have to wake up and stand up to them, we have to try; we MUST try, before it’s too late.
 

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Just a heads up you may want to change the formatting a bit. Its also cool if you include links (though you won't be able to do it initially).

Right now its hard to read.
 

nwo analyst

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Thanks my friend, it seems I can't change it, the words in red are links but they run together with the other words. I will just delete this post and start again, if I can. Haven't found the delete button yet. :)
 

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Thanks my friend, it seems I can't change it, the words in red are links but they run together with the other words. I will just delete this post and start again, if I can. Haven't found the delete button yet. :)
No delete, there should be an "edit" button there under your post. Just click that, highlight everything and click the white eraser looking button at the top to format things correctly.
 

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I have plenty of links in this article but now they don't work. Oh well...

Thank you for your help my friend.

Well, that didn't work. Ok, I'm done with this. Sorry for no working links in the article, they work in the original article.
 

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Your links may work later.

'If you see something, say something,' yes, Janet (Big Sis)-Naplitano's baby.

I'm curious how you arrive at simmering all this down to stemming an already implemented TSA and, well, having said all that, why you never came to mention guns..?meh
 

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I have several pointers for you:
  1. Do not multi-post. I merged them for you, next time, you edit them.
  2. Please post links to the original article, as it's hard to see whether you actually thought this up yourself, or just want to focus attention to some article somewhere.
  3. This thread seems a bit out of place, seeing as all the 9/11 rants are more prone to fringe than actual headlines. I'm going ahead and move this one. For your next enlightening thread, please feel free to read the forum descriptions beforehand, just to save us the trouble of moving your shit to the proper places.
Thanks for your time, and welcome to our humble abode.
 
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nwo analyst

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Thank you Swah. I wanted to delete them but I see there is no delete post button. This post was a trial to get used to the format. This is my article and it does have links, I just couldn't get them to work in this post. I would have linked to the original article but when I originally posted, the original link was asterisks. I really just wanted to post a paragraph with a link to the original article. I'll figure this out before my next post. Thanks again for your help.

jujubee: I wrote this back earlier in the year and I was just ranting about the TSA and checkpoints when I traveled between Phoenix and San Diego/Tijuana.
 
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Thank you Swah. I wanted to delete them but I see there is no delete post button. This post was a trial to get used to the format. This is my article and it does have links, I just couldn't get them to work in this post. I would have linked to the original article but when I originally posted, the original link was asterisks. I really just wanted to post a paragraph with a link to the original article. I'll figure this out before my next post. Thanks again for your help.

jujubee: I wrote this back earlier in the year and I was just ranting about the TSA and checkpoints when I traveled between Phoenix and San Diego/Tijuana.
Boy, hear ya' there, travel is a different animal today, I was floored too in the beginning when I travelled. I flew like the week of 9/11 and I couldn't believe they took all my shit. Not my weed.:D

Welcome, a fresh face!

Kre8t should be along any sec, pissed this is going in fringe.:p
 
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Just curious, what are your opinions on the moon landing, 9/11, the Illuminati, contrails, and Japan's weather control machines?
 
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Nah... I don't give a shit. This site has demonstrated a clear bias. No point in arguing against someone's clear political persuasion to discredit anything that is not their view point.
 
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Nah... I don't give a shit. This site has demonstrated a clear bias. No point in arguing against someone's clear political persuasion to discredit anything that is not their view point.
Well, at this point, it's certainly not fringe and pretty fuckin' verifiable, mostly public knowledge and common sense but opinion is a funny thing and his fulcrum there, 9/11, complete with 'false flag' references, et. al., borders on breaking wide for fringe most any time-to be fair. Any moment, I expected talk of molten steel.:p
 

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My article is based on research, not political. If the links in the article worked, you would be able to check them; also this is based on my personal experience travelling in the Southwest from Las Vegas to San Diego/Tijuana to Phoenix over the last 10 years.

Nailbomb: replying in order: not faked, false flag, questionable society, are not chemtrails, I don't believe it.

:)
 

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Like I said, it's legit as a motherfucker, thread title and all. Sovereignty/Posse Comitatus/the Patriot Acts/the erection of countless new bodies of 'oversight' like the TSA/cameras on street corners-face rec/checkpoints/border control at Canada/Twitter and countless other sites are watchfully monitored and logs absorbed by the fed; ground never to be recovered (even if times have changed)/erosion of free speech can be illustrated by numerous events/oppositionn studies were even recently given life and the list goes on...
 
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I think the most important question to ask during all this "Big Brother is bad" rhetoric is this: What are any of you gonna do about it?

And the answer to that question? I can answer that in two notes: jack shit. That's what you'll do about it. Individually and collectively, nothing. You'll whine, you'll bitch, you'll compare notes. But that's it. So why bother yammering on about it?

Unless you can find 50 million or so of your countrymen with automatic weapons wanting to tear down the status quo and willing to die for their beliefs, the facts and arguments are pointless. And good luck finding that.

No, wait. Rebel by camping in public parks around the U.S. That really seemed to make a difference before. Lol.
 
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I think the most important question to ask during all this "Big Brother is bad" rhetoric is this: What are any of you gonna do about it?

And the answer to that question? I can answer that in two notes: jack shit. That's what you'll do about it. Individually and collectively, nothing. You'll whine, you'll bitch, you'll compare notes. But that's it. So why bother yammering on about it?

Unless you can find 50 million or so of your countrymen with automatic weapons wanting to tear down the status quo and willing to die for their beliefs, the facts and arguments are pointless. And good luck finding that.

No, wait. Rebel by camping in public parks around the U.S. That really seemed to make a difference before. Lol.
I think you're mistaken. There is tons that is being done. There is still more that can be done. You don't go to war with the federal government over just any old thing. You are still obligated to reasonably and peaceably combat that which oppresses. Only when it becomes unbearable should you say... go to war.

And if that isn't what you mean, then I can tell you I've certainly done plenty to help combat all this. Awareness is key. Got to have support no matter what way you're trying to combat something like this. You don't get support over night.

I think there are more people than you realize that are willing to go the distance on something like this. But nobody wants to be seen as an aggressor. You have to change public opinion over a long amount of time... either for or against. I'd say that now more than ever we're fractured into the pro-big gov and anti-big gov crowds. I'd say things are moving along rather nicely.

Just 6 years ago, none of you even believed much of this existed. Now its part of your common vocabulary.
 
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Nailbomb: replying in order: not faked, false flag, questionable society, are not chemtrails, I don't believe it.
Whew. We've had quite a few nutbags that love to come in here and scream about how everything that happens (or is made up by them/their friends yet shouted as factual) is a government plot that's out to get us. I'm not gonna lie, the user name had me thinking you'd be another one of them.

On topic: I'd hardly say we're in a police state, or anywhere near it. Calling it a nanny state may be appropriate, but either way I really doubt it's a set of moves towards a "world government" or whatever so much as it is a collection of idiots that think the government will actually make themselves feel safer with ineffective and pointless laws, and government idiots that think they're being helpful with knee-jerk reactions.
 

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I think the most important question to ask during all this "Big Brother is bad" rhetoric is this: What are any of you gonna do about it?

And the answer to that question? I can answer that in two notes: jack shit. That's what you'll do about it. Individually and collectively, nothing. You'll whine, you'll bitch, you'll compare notes. But that's it. So why bother yammering on about it?

Unless you can find 50 million or so of your countrymen with automatic weapons wanting to tear down the status quo and willing to die for their beliefs, the facts and arguments are pointless. And good luck finding that.

No, wait. Rebel by camping in public parks around the U.S. That really seemed to make a difference before. Lol.
Somebody wants to play.:p

The pen-and word of mouth-are mightier.. The other side proves it just as well on a daily basis across any given media. Wanna fight about it?:D

Whew. We've had quite a few nutbags that love to come in here and scream about how everything that happens (or is made up by them/their friends yet shouted as factual) is a government plot that's out to get us. I'm not gonna lie, the user name had me thinking you'd be another one of them.

On topic: I'd hardly say we're in a police state, or anywhere near it. Calling it a nanny state may be appropriate, but either way I really doubt it's a set of moves towards a "world government" or whatever so much as it is a collection of idiots that think the government will actually make themselves feel safer with ineffective and pointless laws, and government idiots that think they're being helpful with knee-jerk reactions.
Yeah, the username seriously smacked of fringe.:)


Anyway, global governance is a 'household', everyday term, a softened version of world order made more pallatable for mass consumption. I had a good read on that evolution, if I can find it.

An FOIA forced admission here...
http://www.foia.cia.gov/2025/2025_Global_Governance.pdf


There's a global governance watch org as well, that's never a good sign.
http://www.globalgovernancewatch.org/