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Headlines To Loot or not to loot?

diamond

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In the next two hours Port Arthur becomes a lawless town.

The police and other emergency services will be moving out as the winds increase.

There are many people who filled their tanks with gas using the last of their money, many sold belongings to do so. They were caught on the road, watching that precious fuel disappearing and knowing that they had to return.

Naturally they have no provisions, and no money to buy them, should they find them. Many have children to feed and protect.

Could you really blame them for stealing provisions? Are they looters or merely surviving the best way they can?
 

UberSkippy

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Looting to survive is different than looting to get a flat pannel TV and the latest DVD pr0n collection.

Food, water, some clothes etc... that you would need to survive in a harsh climate doesn't really count as looting in my book.

CD's, TV's, jewlery and shit does.
 

diamond

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I agree totally. It was only thinking about those people who are, despite their best efforts, stuck in a danger zone that made me think about the fact that technically their offence is the same as those who are taking advantage of the situation to their gain, rather than their survival.

To muddy the water a little....what about the guy who goes to steal the groceries and just happens to notice that plasma that he has room for in the suv he had to steal due to lack of fuel? lol
 

UberSkippy

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diamond said:
I agree totally. It was only thinking about those people who are, despite their best efforts, stuck in a danger zone that made me think about the fact that technically their offence is the same as those who are taking advantage of the situation to their gain, rather than their survival.

To muddy the water a little....what about the guy who goes to steal the groceries and just happens to notice that plasma that he has room for in the suv he had to steal due to lack of fuel? lol
The guy to swipes a Plasma TV is a looter regardless of whatever justification he uses.

As far as food and supplies, in most emergencies that's not considered a crime. In Lousiana for instance the governor comandeered food stuffs. In a time of emergency the government can pre-emptively excuse certain acts that would otherwise be considered criminal.

In cases like this I don't think anyone would press charges in any case. Think of the headlines: Walmart has 70 year old grandma arrested for stealing $.30 box of Macaroni and Cheese durring natural disaster
 

diamond

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UberSkippy said:
The guy to swipes a Plasma TV is a looter regardless of whatever justification he uses.

As far as food and supplies, in most emergencies that's not considered a crime. In Lousiana for instance the governor comandeered food stuffs. In a time of emergency the government can pre-emptively excuse certain acts that would otherwise be considered criminal.

In cases like this I don't think anyone would press charges in any case. Think of the headlines: Walmart has 70 year old grandma arrested for stealing $.30 box of Macaroni and Cheese durring natural disaster

Macaroni cheese? She would be dead before the trial
 

Darklight

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yeah well walmart also employes illegal immigrants and has alot of its goods made by child labor... if they are cheap like that, they would go off over 30 cents..

or something...
 

RageAgainst

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It depends on the context.. If shits gonna be destroyed or wasted if left in the stores, it's not morally wrong to loot them. Also for surviving needs it's not morally wrong to steal food and other stuff.
 
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Well if it comes down to it and all that is keeping me from starving is that box of .30 cent mac and cheese and death that is about to get looted from a store.... it is kind of a no brainer. That .30 cent box of mac and cheese is comming home with me. If some wants to prosecute me over it then well at least in jail I will get 3 things "called" meals a day. As for the people lifting T.V.'s and DVD players fucking shoot them. The guy lifting porn gets a A in my book for taste but fucking shoot him. You don't need porn to survive (i know that point can be argued). If you are taking advantage of a natural disaster for your benifit then you need to nolonger be a part of the human race. Yes I am for survival of the fittest but there comes a time when the humanity card comes into effect. Ok I will step down off my milk crate.
 

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There were people were being shot for looting items unnesesary for survival down in New Orleans. A state of emergency was called and the army, the local police, even armed civilians were asked to shoot at those looters. Some people were even trying to steal guns from police and the National Guard, and something had to be done to try and control the chaos.
 

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TheUltimateDrew said:
There were people were being shot for looting items unnesesary for survival down in New Orleans. A state of emergency was called and the army, the local police, even armed civilians were asked to shoot at those looters. Some people were even trying to steal guns from police and the National Guard, and something had to be done to try and control the chaos.
well I got no problem with a few of the lesser life forms being removed from society really.. its ok to take some bread or milk or food in general... but what ya gonna do with that 21 inch plasma screen tv with surround sound, WHEN THERES NO FUCKING POWER OR CABLE! ventilate em..
 
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well you could always build a fire with the T.V. to cook with but i can think of better shit to burn than plastic and metal.
 

Slacker

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Panasonik said:
UberSkippy said:
Looting to survive is different than looting to get a flat pannel TV and the latest DVD pr0n collection.
Whats life without pr0n and TV?
Especially when the electricity is out. :rolleyes:
 
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That is why I have gone Low Tech and have a huge porn mag collection.... to bad most of it now is of the Japnese variety. I like the women ad all but they have F'ed up laws concerning porn....
 
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all i know is that i would be one of those people who steal the tv's and shit
although everyone says that my morals or whatever are just fucked up. I figure well, if i have no money and i have all these things. then i can sell them or keep them when the storm passes and be able to get along with my life much faster than the others. Like it or not, i would do that stuff but i would first gather things necessary to my survival and then i would go back later before it was to late and then commense the looting, which is a game name. how about stealing, i like it much better.
 

diamond

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TheUltimateDrew said:
There were people were being shot for looting items unnesesary for survival down in New Orleans. A state of emergency was called and the army, the local police, even armed civilians were asked to shoot at those looters. Some people were even trying to steal guns from police and the National Guard, and something had to be done to try and control the chaos.
There is also video footage of police officers looting though.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/8911023771013466/countdown-looting-in-walmart/

I have to say it made me laugh