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Headlines Turkey accused of torturing mentally disabled

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ISTANBUL (AFP) - An international human rights group that campaigns for the mentally disabled denounced the treatment of handicapped people in Turkey, saying some patients were subjected to torture and inhumane treatment.

Presenting an in-depth report on Turkey, the chairman of Mental Disability Rights International (MDRI), Eric Rosenthal, said some practices in Turkey contravened a European convention on torture.
"We have identified a practice of torture: the use of electroconvulsive treatments (ECT) without anaesthesia," he told a news conference.
"We have found children in orphanages and rehabilitation centres tied down to their beds, denied medical treatment, left without rehabilitation and left without the support they need to get food to keep them alive."
Rosenthal also said that many people without disabilities had been locked up in psychiatric institutions or rehabilitation centres because of a lack of guidelines on internment.
The report, researched over two years in specialised centres in Turkey, comes days before Turkey is set to begin talks with the European Union about becoming a member of the 25-member bloc.
Rosenthal insisted that the findings of the report should not be used to prevent the mainly Muslim country joining the EU, but he seemed aware of the pressures on Turkey to improve its record on human rights and accountability.
"I want to emphasise that there is no reason why these abuses should stand in the way of Turkey's accession because Turkey has every ability to end the most serious abuses tomorrow," he said.

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Wow, shocking!

Who'd a thunk it, Turkey so progressive...​
 

Nailbomb

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Those Turks sure are bloodthirsty... :thumbsup:
 

umit

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some patients were subjected to torture and inhumane treatment.
i am sure that this is a lie created by an Anti-Turkey group in the EU. Do you really belive these kind of things? I mean, it is not logical becuase it is too cruel situation for humans.

Those Turks sure are bloodthirsty...
Dude! at least we are not oilthirsty ;)
 

Jung

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umit said:
i am sure that this is a lie created by an Anti-Turkey group in the EU. Do you really belive these kind of things? I mean, it is not logical becuase it is too cruel situation for humans.
:lol:

You mention logic, then just make up some random things to try and discredit the story. Where's the logic in that? I guess your random guesses are more logical and factual than this article's sources? Just because...

There's a word for what you're doing; it's called rationalizing.
it is too cruel situation for humans
I'm sorry, but I fail to see the logic in that statement. By what are you basing "too cruel for humans beings" upon? Surely if you have a theory about this you can express it in a way that isn't horribly vague ans baseless.
 

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some reason when I first read this I was thinking a turkey like the bird...
 

umit

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I'm sorry, but I fail to see the logic in that statement. By what are you basing "too cruel for humans beings" upon? Surely if you have a theory about this you can express it in a way that isn't horribly vague ans baseless.
i just tried to say that human being can not subject the patients to torture.
 

Jung

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i just tried to say that human being can not subject the patients to torture.
Well, I got that much out of your reply. My point was, by what logic do you think that they "can't?" You're just guessing; your reply is not based on any factual information. I mean, that's fine if that's just your opinion, but people have done similar things in the past; humans certainly aren't incapable of such acts.

I understand that you're probably just taking up for Turks, and there is nothing wrong with that, but at least make your rebuttal sensible.
 

umit

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Thanks for understanding me. I never say that Turkey is a perfect country. There are lots of things to do, unfortunately. I wish we were as modern as the USA; as economically and prosperity. Thats why we want to join to the EU. But some groups in some European countries dont want to see Turkey in the EU. Thats why i claimed that above.

Those Turks sure are bloodthirsty...
Junglizm, consider this reply may hardly bother us. And thats why i replied this thread. I came here just for fun, lol.

but people have done similar things in the past
maybe ages ago, but i dont belive this may happen in this century ;)

Anyway, have fun, dude! :p
 

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maybe ages ago, but i dont belive this may happen in this century ;)
I think it's pretty possible in this century also.. you overestimate humans.
 

ChilianFuckFace

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We should tell President Bush. He would send our military over there, take over the goverment and create chaos! :rolleyes:
 

Jung

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maybe ages ago, but i dont belive this may happen in this century ;)

Anyway, have fun, dude! :p
I think you seriously underestimate what people are capable of. I don't feel inclined to search for proof, as I"m sure you could find it yourself if you really cared, but I know there are people out there who do some pretty heinous things. Serial rapist, murders, child molesters; all sorts of horrible crimes happen everyday. It's nice to think our world is beyond that, but in reality, it's far, far from it. :(
 

umit

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i watch FBI Files at discovery channel and i see lots of heinous things which happening in the US. But, in this thread we are talking about Turkish government/officials. I still belive that there is no any country that subject their disabled patients to prisons(except Saddam, lol).
 

voiceofreason

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ChilianFuckFace said:
We should tell President Bush. He would send our military over there, take over the goverment and create chaos! :rolleyes:
Chil,

Turkey doesn't have any oil, get real...
 

voiceofreason

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i watch FBI Files at discovery channel and i see lots of heinous things which happening in the US. But, in this thread we are talking about Turkish government/officials. I still belive that there is no any country that subject their disabled patients to prisons(except Saddam, lol).
Can you say Dr. Mengele?

He was the Angel of Death, just like Kit...
 

ChilianFuckFace

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voiceofreason said:
Chil,

Turkey doesn't have any oil, get real...
Ahhh, I forgot that simple little detail. Thank you voiceofreason for the correcting me.
 

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disabled torture

why is everybody always picking on those disabled guys they cant help they are useless i think they should be put in a country with al of them together and let them make some fun but we won't have to pay majore taxes for them.
they are just using our money so people lets stand up and marche against the disabled:cool: ;)
 

voiceofreason

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Angerfist said:
why is everybody always picking on those disabled guys they cant help they are useless i think they should be put in a country with al of them together and let them make some fun but we won't have to pay majore taxes for them.
they are just using our money so people lets stand up and marche against the disabled:cool: ;)
Sounds like you've turned against your own people...:confused:
 

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Turkey is a semi dictatorship because the real power is in the hands of the military (MGK) and they infringe on both legislative and judiciary powers.
 

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umit said:
i just tried to say that human being can not subject the patients to torture.

You dont know humans very well, do you?