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Headlines Turns out artists don't particularly dislike filesharing


...Or at least they're on the fence about it.

Survey: Net file-sharing doesn't hurt most musicians

Monday, December 6, 2004 Posted: 10:09 AM EST (1509 GMT)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Most musicians and artists say the Internet has helped them make more money from their work despite online file-trading services that allow users to copy songs and other material for free, according to a study released Sunday.

Recording labels and movie studios have hired phalanxes of lawyers to pursue "peer to peer" networks like Kazaa, and have sued thousands of individuals who distribute copyrighted material through such networks.

But most of the artists surveyed by the nonprofit Pew Internet and American Life Project said online file sharing did not concern them much.

Artists were split on the merits of peer-to-peer networks, with 47 percent saying that they prevent artists from earning royalties for their work and another 43 percent saying they helped promote and distribute their material.

But two-thirds of those surveyed said file sharing posed little threat to them, and less than one-third of those surveyed said file sharing was a major threat to creative industries.

Only 3 percent said the Internet hurt their ability to protect their creative works.

"What we hear from a wide spectrum of artists is that, despite the real challenges of protecting work online, the Internet has opened new ways for them to exercise their imaginations and sell their creations," said report author Mary Madden, a research specialist at the Pew Internet and American Life Project.

The nonprofit group based its report on a survey of 809 self-identified artists in December 2003. The survey has a margin of error of 4 percentage points.
This is noteworthy for two reasons: 1) The initial anti-file swapping craze was in part spearheaded by Metallica, claiming lost revenues, and 2) It's another reason to hate on the RIAA; if the artists aren't complaining, it's the recording industry as a whole that's the true driving force. Moreover, it's been lying about why it is so tough on filesharing, claiming it is for the artists' benefit.

So, the whole "OMG filesharing is the death of music" rhetoric really is bullshit. The industry is destroying itself and blaming it on the music lovers.

Just thought it was an interesting tidbit in the ongoing filesharing mess.


Kiss my Converse
This is off topic, but I had to rant since the RIAA was mentioned.

You ever wondered what the difference is between the "data" CDR's and the "audio" CDR's sold by your local retailer? Maybe you think it is some special formating made to handle audio or data better, or possibly you think one is made to better play in "audio" CD players.

Truth is this is a clever marketing ploy, made up in a large part thanks to RIAA.
The truth is there is NO DIFFERENCE in "audio" CDR's and "data" CDR's. They are the exact same product. Now thats funny, cause it always seems that audio CDR's seem to cost a little more. Once again, that is thanks to our friends at the RIAA, it seems they charge a tax on anything designated specifcally for recording music. Keep that in mind next your are at bestbuy, looking at your favorite brand of CDR, wondering which is better, the data, or the audio.

If you want a good laugh, ask the sales guy what the difference is and listen to the bullshit remarks about "formating" that spew from his mouth like raw sewage. :sword:

*back on topic*
oh and remember when the napster guy presented the award at the MTV music awards a few years back wearing a metallica t-shirt? that was fucking classy. Especailly when they panned the camera over to metallica and you could seem them getting a bit sqeamish and uncomfortable.


Hella Constipated
Well, the RIAA is eventually going to wake up, because I feel they will be dead by 2010 if they keep doing this shit...


Somewhere in the Between
Okay, Most artists, If they're not just in it for the money, will not care because they are hearing their art form. they don't care. Make it Legal Dammit!


Newsroom Thats Pissed!!
Do you guys realize that the artists only make like 40 cents per CD sold? They make all of their money from touring and concerts and merchandise. CD sales make them almost no money at all. If the artists are loosing money at all then they are not touring and promoting themselves enough. I think of filesharing as a way to just explore new artists you havent heard before. I mean I have learned of a lot of new bands that I never would have heard before if I hadn't downloaded their music. The artists loose just as much money allowing people to burn their CDs than they do for allowing peopel to download them, either way people aren't buying the CD, but is their a crusade against CD burners like there is against filesharing software? Of course not. I know that if I was a band I would much rather have a ton of exposure than to have none. If a software system could get my name out there and allow more people to come and see my band play, then I would be fucking happy.


nervous tic, dull knife
I am by no means a thread junkie. I AM curious as to why someone gave me bad rep for my post earlier in this thread though. What a weirdo!


Flame Bait
What? Filesharing is illegal? Wow, I didn't even know! I mean...everyone does it!

Lol, jk but i don't share files much anyway. I don't listen to music that much (I'm a musician so I would rather play music ;) ) But whatever music industry just shuddap. We own your songs and there is nothing you can do about it...honestly...with all the filesharing going on there is no way to stop 95% (made up figure but I think it's a good guess if not even more) of the people so why even bother? To demote it? It's not like it's gonna work - people are gonna find ways around being caught...just give up.