See what through? The only thing we do there everyday is get more and more people killed. There is no plan people - wake up.MaxPower said:No I don't think we should have gone in, but now that we're there it would be disasterous (for them) to pull out now. We started a chain of events that we need to see through. At this point it is our responsability to get the new gov. in place, and have civil security in place, stablizing their economy, and public facilities. Then we can filter ourselves out in an orderly manner, and hopefully regain the trust of the Iraqi Citizens.
Then we can go WreakHavoc in Iran and NorthKorea.
So, has Iraq EVER been "organized"? I think not. We may be waiting for a long time for that to happen...morelos said:yeah.. the problem with that is that the troops will be under US command, not under iraqi command. so it's like two independent bodies of enforcement?
too many cooks spoil the broth. put the soldiers under iraqi command as a gesture of faith and good will, and get them the fuck home as soon as the people there are organized again.
Sorry Morelos, can't all "warm & fuzzy" about how poor little Saddam couldn't sit at the big kids table.morelos said:iraq was very organized, by comparison to other countries in similar economic situations, when saddam was running it. now i'm not denying the tyranny or abuse or anything else, but i do want you to know that saddam hussein managed to keep a lot of people employed and a lot of families fed by comparison with how it is in iraq now. he also had a program to keep people employed building new housing tracts; when they were finished, people were invited to just take up occupancy, so it's like killing two birds with one stone.
now, President Hussein of Iraq had been deserted by his father and at age 6, when his mother re-married, his step-father never once accepted him as part of the family. the step-father would never let saddam eat at the table with his own mother and half-siblings, and the step-father always told him he should never have been born.
that would fuck up any kid. the guy grew up and always feared being forgotten; thus as over-powered president of a country, he had big buildings created with his name on every brick and shit. it's just a constant fear of being forgotten by the world.
anyway, just remember we all share humanity in common with every other human. it's good and bad, all wrapped up into one incomprehensible package. just, the more you think about it, the stronger a person you are freed to become.
~ dan ~
though he meant me, i'm more concerned with MY A PANSY... i'd better find it and water it, so it doesn't die. i love taking care of my plants. i just didn't know i had pansies anywhere.. maybe it means i have property somewhere and just have to claim it, like the scams they e-mail you? hm.. i dunno.. help me out, here..voiceofreason said:Who is MORALES?
Well, he is a Dew Hopper, so I'm sure he knows his pansies. But what about the daisy? and four-o-clocks?morelos said:though he meant me, i'm more concerned with MY A PANSY... i'd better find it and water it, so it doesn't die. i love taking care of my plants. i just didn't know i had pansies anywhere.. maybe it means i have property somewhere and just have to claim it, like the scams they e-mail you? hm.. i dunno.. help me out, here..
~ dan ~