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When did therapy become the Only answer?

JLXC

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If you have a problem, people tell you to seek counciling/therapy. Doesn't matter what for. Weight, spouse fights, whatever it's immediately "See professional help!!!!!"

One wonders how people lived before Therapy? Are people just weaker minded? Is it truly the answer to all problems? Paying someone 10 - 50 times an hour what I make to speak with for hours and hours.... so that there's a chance it might get better? I mean what a racket. The person who comes in for therapy is already having the problem. So if they make tens of thousands of dollars and then "cure" the patient... they are a hero! If not... they make tens of thousands and say "You're just not responding to therapy, let's do some drugs and maybe a specialist" which costs you tens of thousands more. It's a win win for the therapist.

Since not all threapy works, hell much of it doesn't (look it up yourself) it's a wonderful way to earn a living. Like the weather man... you just get paid right or wrong.

Since when did all family problems become "other people's business"? You can't just work it out... you must seek councilling or "You're not even trying."

Also, it's like all the "12 step programs". They require you to believe in god, or to say you do, just to take the program. What a mind fuck. It's one of the required 12 steps, and seemingly rational people reccomend this to people all the time. It boggles my mind.

Every single friend, and myself for that matter, I know who has gone to "councilling/therapy" has had it affect them in a negative way, sometimes drastically. My brother was mentally ill (ended up suicide) and the "therapist" he went to see not only tried to drag me in for therapy, but when I did go to a family session to "help my brother" the asshole was all too happy to tell me all my brothers problems were my fault, not a mental illness. Way to go dumbfuck. One friend of mine ended up nearly going to jail because of one session with a "school councillor" who called the police. The stories are endless. So I am firmly AGAINST the therapy community. I was just wondering what you all thought?
 

void

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with all due respect, and i hope you realise i mean that, this is almost solely an american problem.. living in england and europe before i came to the states i maybe met 2 people who underwent counselling in all those years. i don't believe all americans are seeing counsellors but the likelihood here is very, VERY much higher.
as much as i love america, and the americans.. i do think that neurosis is a much bigger problem here, and thus the prevelance of mental health treatments.. and then they both become a vicious circle of one feeding the other feeding the other..

solution?
i would decriminalise MDMA/ecstasy and put it in the water.. a whole lot more fun than flouride..
 

Woodreaux

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Good spiel JLXC. I agree with you about motha fucka's going over board with the therapy shit. I believe it is bad on a multiple levels.
On the individual level it becomes a crutch. Just like you said, everytime something goes wrong, oh shit, I need professional help? What ever happenned to individual fortitude or self-reliance? Such traits used to be signs of strength.
The therapy groups themselves... I don't much about them because, as you may have figured already, I haven't encountered problems that required professional therapy. But I have seen plenty of AA meetings. They have a habit of holding them in public places... which destroys the implied anonimity. Now I'm not going to knock people for asking for help with their drinking problems, but I do have issues with doctrine that AA puts forth. One of the rules says that members have to believe in a higher power. WTF!?!? That is uncalled for! Alcholics have enough problems with the drinking, burdenning them with the idea of evil gods is just undue burden. I'm digressing from the main problem of overreliance on help groups/therapy.
Finally, it speaks poorly of our society. It makes us look like a bunch of pansies. When too many people in a social group are in therapy, then it becomes the norm. Weak minded people will begin to fabricate problems to have something to get help for. (Like the jackasses in Fight Club). I knew people who joined help groups just to meet/prey on people in the groups. That is some foul shit.
 

BrIONwoshMunky

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I'll have to agree on the fact that therapy is a bunch of crap.

Personally I think it's due to the fact that no one takes responsibility for anything anymore. It's your parent's fault, or the company's fault, or whatever is the 'source'-of-your-problems' fault.

Theapy isn't the only bunch of shit, so is suing everyone because you were an idiot, and did whatever stupid thing you did. Like pour hot coffee on you, or shot yourself with a gun, or whatever... I hope you get my point...
 

Piro

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"Therapy is for fucking pansies" -The British.

I was recommended professional help by my sister when our father committed suicide. I went to one meeting, and I decided it was a complete and utter waste of time (I'm not the greatest at opening up to family, let alone strangers). I fixed my problems the old fashioned way through self determination, reflection and time. Time, imo, is not a great healer, more of a dampener. My sister on the other hand, did benefit from the additional help. It all comes down to the individual person I guess.

I feel therapy is the choice of the lazy, either on the victim’s or even the parent’s part. Going through "the shit" is all part of character building. It's best to figure out yourself, for yourself.
 

DirtyBird

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It helps me a lot... go figure.

I dont see why it's any of your business to tell people they should or should not go to therapy. Personal choice, nothing else to it. If they feel like it's not helping them they have every right to stop going. It's not like they're being forced at gunpoint.

I go to therapy for some anxiety problems I have and I've turned my life around in the past 6 months, and I dont know who you think you are to say it's all bullshit and doesn't work. It depends on the person, both the therapist and the client.
 

leehype

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America is having problems with just throughing money at all there problems. How many kids are supposed to have add right now??? If it aint counsling, it's med's people are on nowadays:mad:
 
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I would much rather people go to therapy than just take drugs for their problems. Pills rarely solve anything; they are supposed to put you in a normal-enough cognitive state so that you can develop the mental tools needed to deal with your problems. A lot of people can't do that alone, that's where therapy comes in.

I must say that I am an atheist, and I do not believe in a higher power. However, I also know that alcoholism is an extremely strong addiction, and most alcoholics are so consumed by their addiction that they are powerless against it. The thought that their may be a power greater than their addiction is a great comfort to most of them.
 
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I go to counseling because...

1) To kill time
2) So I can feel good about myself for maybe an hour, tops
3) Because my mom makes me
 

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void said:
with all due respect, and i hope you realise i mean that, this is almost solely an american problem.. living in england and europe before i came to the states i maybe met 2 people who underwent counselling in all those years. i don't believe all americans are seeing counsellors but the likelihood here is very, VERY much higher.
as much as i love america, and the americans.. i do think that neurosis is a much bigger problem here, and thus the prevelance of mental health treatments.. and then they both become a vicious circle of one feeding the other feeding the other..
I agree that seeking Therapy to solve personal problems seems to be FAR more prevalent in America than anywhere else I've been. In fact, living in Europe, the only time I even HEAR of Therapy is when it's mentioned on some American TV Show/Movie.

Can anyone offer a valid opinion as to why this might be the case?

Also... anyone think it's strange that someone with mental/emotional issues would seek help on the far side of a door marked Therapist? (the RAPIST)
:confused:

Anyway, must dash, gotta get to physio(therapy)! :p