yotaka said:
Okay, I want to pick some peoples brains here. I want people to tell me a definition of a "punk" and a definition of a "poser". Please tell me 'cause no one seems to agree so I opened up this thread to set the record straight...
Pls reply dammit!!!! :feedback:
Im coming in late on this one.
History of Punk (the popular version) is the Ramones were the first to be dubbed this by a teen magazine back in the early mid 70s. They and many other CBGB bands in NY sort of used the term that was coined by the Magazine and turned it into a new pop culture.
I always thought it was the Clash or The Sex Pistols that started the movement, but they came afterwards.
a poser can be anything. A Poser is just someone who pretends to something he or she really isnt.
Like, If a Teenager from middle class suburbs tries to act like he's from the Ghetto and starts throwing around gang signs and isnt really up to throwing down or getting Shot. That's a Fucking Poser.
If a Kid takes an eraser and rubs it on their arm over the weekend and then goes to school on monday and brags that they cut themselves, Thats a Poser. Even worst, An Emo Poser. Cause they try and act emotional but its for attention and not seeded from real issues.
Thats the best as I can remember of what Punk was. I was a kid during the movement and my best friend went to the last Sex Pistols concert at Winterland.
HoneyImHome said:
What Lamp said. My daughter likes Hot Topic because of a few of the things there, but wouldn't go all out with their clothing. She likes some of the t-shirts, and bracelets, jewelry, buttons, etc. People at her school still call her goth. She's NOWHERE near goth (not that I'd have a problem with it). Just because she wears rock t-shirts and her eyeliner, which is brown, shows up very dark because she is naturally pale, very pale actually. It makes her appear gothic but there is nothing she wears that doesn't make her look that way.
She hates it when people call her punk or goth because she hates labels. She hates how now it's "cool" to shop at Hot Topic and no longer wants to for that reason alone. She also tells people she's not a goth and that goths would call her a poser for even trying to say it. Anyway, I'm proud of her because she just wants to be herself and hates the idea of wearing something to look a particular way.
I consider myself Gothic, I liked Most Goth bands (Especially from the 80s in its earliest form).
But i look nothing like it. I dont want to conform to a style. I know most do it to express the darkness in their life, But i'de rather wear a polo shirt or a hawiaan shirt today then dress up in black and dye my hair black.
I love Joy Division and Echo and Romeo Void and Peter Murphy and all the older stuff that more or less formed the culture. I just dont want to advertise my emotions with a certain "look".
Although I usually dress up in mostly black when I visit some of the older clubs. I havnt visited them in 3 or 4 years though.