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RebelBuddha

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Am I the only one that see's the world gearing up for WWIII? I'll explain my reasoning if you have time.

We've established permanent bases in the mideast which surround Iran... an up an coming "Rouge power".

http://www.chartingstocks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/us_military_iran.jpg

Venezula kicked out US diplomats and corporations and Hugo is now meeting with Admadenijhad and Syria.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421381,00.html

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/darticlen.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2010/June/middleeast_June635.xml&section=middleeast

Israel keeps begging for action in Gaza and against Iran:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Israel-has-eight-days-to-hit-Iran-nuclear-site-US-envoy/articleshow/6325488.cms

North Korea and South Korea are flipping out as Kim Jong Ill threatens Japan:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64N0F520100529

And this is all in the midst of the Worst Global Economic Meltdown since the great Depression... which "Conventional wisdom" believes was solved by WWII. We're going back into a deep "Recession" as California begins to issue more IOU's. The US economy recently lost its Triple A rating and world powers have been considering dropping the US dollar as the world reserve currency... which would be nothing short of catastrophic for future growth of the US much less any hopes of paying back China. Wiemar republic anyone?

http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/19/news/economy/california_ious_furloughs/

What is a Wiemar Republic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiemar_republic

Whatever you gather from this quickly written theory of things... you certainly cannot deny that world governments are on edge and that the slightest inclination that one nation may strike its foe... could set off a chain of events that would engage us all in one of the most desperate and bloody decades in the history of the world.
 

domigoftw

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Am I the only one that see's the world gearing up for WWIII? I'll explain my reasoning if you have time.

We've established permanent bases in the mideast which surround Iran... an up an coming "Rouge power".

http://www.chartingstocks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/us_military_iran.jpg

Venezula kicked out US diplomats and corporations and Hugo is now meeting with Admadenijhad and Syria.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421381,00.html

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/darticlen.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2010/June/middleeast_June635.xml&section=middleeast

Israel keeps begging for action in Gaza and against Iran:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Israel-has-eight-days-to-hit-Iran-nuclear-site-US-envoy/articleshow/6325488.cms

North Korea and South Korea are flipping out as Kim Jong Ill threatens Japan:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64N0F520100529

And this is all in the midst of the Worst Global Economic Meltdown since the great Depression... which "Conventional wisdom" believes was solved by WWII. We're going back into a deep "Recession" as California begins to issue more IOU's. The US economy recently lost its Triple A rating and world powers have been considering dropping the US dollar as the world reserve currency... which would be nothing short of catastrophic for future growth of the US much less any hopes of paying back China. Wiemar republic anyone?
http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/19/news/economy/california_ious_furloughs/

What is a Wiemar Republic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiemar_republic

Whatever you gather from this quickly written theory of things... you certainly cannot deny that world governments are on edge and that the slightest inclination that one nation may strike its foe... could set off a chain of events that would engage us all in one of the most desperate and bloody decades in the history of the world.
I find the Weimar Republic comparison a bit silly to say the least

Weimar republic? Really? No. I think that is a bit to far fetched, unless I see Americans on news carrying wheel borrows of worthless Dollars. The conditions are no where as near as bad as they were for Germany, miles off. Things aren't even near desperate as your average German had it in the 1930's.


However governments are on edge like you said, anything is possible, you just wonder who will push the Nuke button first eh?
 

RebelBuddha

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I find the Weimar Republic comparison a bit silly to say the least

Weimar republic? Really? No. I think that is a bit to far fetched, unless I see Americans on news carrying wheel borrows of worthless Dollars. The conditions are no where as near as bad as they were for Germany, miles off. Things aren't even near desperate as your average German had it in the 1930's.


However governments are on edge like you said, anything is possible, you just wonder who will push the Nuke button first eh?
If the US dollar is dropped from the World Reserve Currency status... something very similar to a Wiemar Republic is possible. I'm not saying things are like that now... I'm saying it has the atmosphere to be similar.

I dont think anyone will push the Nuke button... I really dont think that any nation is that retarded. I also don't think it would go into anything like the Cold war due to Israel's push to stop Iran. I do think that it could be escalated very quickly into a Total War World War. We've been itching to test out our military as have other nations. its only a matter of time before two well equiped nations battle it out. I think it would be one of these lessor nations that would provoke it though.

Something like... Preemptive strikes by the US, South Korea or Israel...on North Korea, Iran or Venezuela... dragging its allies into it and forcing a response by China or Russia.

All I'm trying to show is the climate that seems to be growing thicker. Of course it could just be making news more recently and thus explain my correlations and thoughts.
 

JLXC

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If WWIII happens, I hope they start with massive nuke strikes and save us all the suffering. heh.
 

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I dont think anyone will push the Nuke button... I really dont think that any nation is that retarded.
For me, it's not the simple rational of a nation/leader pressing the button. Now that the nuke cat is out of the bag, at some time 'mercenaries' / 'freelancers' / corporations / terrorist group will end up with their hands on the technology.

There's many ways that is could come into play, but one of them is if a country with nukes collapses and gangs and vigilanties take over.

It may be the US one day. It could be Pakistan. One of several. History says that given time a civilisation will crumble. Who will crash first and leave the tools to firestorm the planet in the hands of unrestrianed and possibly desperate people.

Not saying it'll happen tomorrow. But give it a century or two. Of course, we wont be here to check. My point is, the tools of destruction are there, it's inevitable that the trigger will be pushed.
 

ACRIMONY

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Am I the only one that see's the world gearing up for WWIII? I'll explain my reasoning if you have time.

We've established permanent bases in the mideast which surround Iran... an up an coming "Rouge power".

http://www.chartingstocks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/us_military_iran.jpg

Venezula kicked out US diplomats and corporations and Hugo is now meeting with Admadenijhad and Syria.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421381,00.html

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/darticlen.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2010/June/middleeast_June635.xml&section=middleeast

Israel keeps begging for action in Gaza and against Iran:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Israel-has-eight-days-to-hit-Iran-nuclear-site-US-envoy/articleshow/6325488.cms

North Korea and South Korea are flipping out as Kim Jong Ill threatens Japan:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64N0F520100529

And this is all in the midst of the Worst Global Economic Meltdown since the great Depression... which "Conventional wisdom" believes was solved by WWII. We're going back into a deep "Recession" as California begins to issue more IOU's. The US economy recently lost its Triple A rating and world powers have been considering dropping the US dollar as the world reserve currency... which would be nothing short of catastrophic for future growth of the US much less any hopes of paying back China. Wiemar republic anyone?

http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/19/news/economy/california_ious_furloughs/

What is a Wiemar Republic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiemar_republic

Whatever you gather from this quickly written theory of things... you certainly cannot deny that world governments are on edge and that the slightest inclination that one nation may strike its foe... could set off a chain of events that would engage us all in one of the most desperate and bloody decades in the history of the world.
WW3 is Very Possible at ANY Time Now.. All We Need is a Spark!
 

dustinzgirl

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:rolleyes:

I choose not to live in fear.
Are you saying that I do? Cuz my version of the bible says not to live in fear, that what will be, will be. And thats how I live.

Plus, short of biochemical war, we know how to live off the grid in the mountains. Will probably have to live underground with the heat seeking stuff. Lots of caves you can live in up here.
 

ACRIMONY

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Are you saying that I do? Cuz my version of the bible says not to live in fear, that what will be, will be. And thats how I live.

Plus, short of biochemical war, we know how to live off the grid in the mountains. Will probably have to live underground with the heat seeking stuff. Lots of caves you can live in up here.
That Sounds COOL DG!! :)
 

DirtyBird

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This business with the dollar is disturbing, but nonetheless so much of the world's economy is tied up in the United States I have a hard time believing the rest of the world can seriously economically turn its back on us.

And the other problem with war is a question of motivations. In the modern world there's far more attention being paid to making money through commerce than through war. It's the reason China wouldnt bother invading the US - why would they? We make them rich. China would rather sit back and make money than go to war. Same with Russia - they've got better things to do than start another world war.

Iran and Israel could get us tied up into some bullshit, which I find really depressing since i find out entanglement with Israel to be a hell of a liability.
 

JLXC

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I think it's possible Kre8tor. It seems more and more possible. Though it seems we're in a competition between "Big Brother" and "Doomsday" factions somewhere in the higher ups in world politics. I wish they'd make up their minds.
 
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RageAgainst

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Paradoxically, China and the US are mutually dependent competitors. They compete for resources but are mutually dependent for trade. As long as the current political and economical world order is maintained, I can not see China and the US enter war against each other. Only a drastic change in the global equation could lead to such a war, and even then I can't see what.

What will probably happen is obviously war in Iran, possibly Venezuela and North Korea, but these are theater wars. A global war remains highly unlikely unless, as I said, a drastic change happens in the world. It could be a global war driven by environmental crises such as mounting water deficits in certain regions of the world, or something else.

Globalization works in such a way that interdependence between regions increases with time. China is embracing capitalist globalization balls deep. Only countries that are a threat to capitalist globalization are in danger of war (Venezuela, Iran, North Korea). A collapse of the world order and a return to a nation-state world order could increase the odds of a direct military confrontation between major powers. The environmental situation could lead to a collapse of the world order. However, global chaos seems more likely than global war.
 

JLXC

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So it's the Chinese and the USA vs everyone else! Booyah! Not many people would see that coming at least. heh.
 

MADMazen

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I find predicting wars is a sign that you're unhappy with your current world and would like a massive sweeping change to totally throw a monkey wrench into the system and rearrange everything. After WWI and WWII in just a matter of years colonialism collapsed (the open variety at least) and new superpowers came about, not to mention great leaps and bounds in political ideology and human rights. My advice to you is to start some shit as soon as possible for the pure joy of seeing everything go towards greater entropy.

That being said, we're not due for anything major. All of these conflicts have far greater potential as fist-shaking power. Israel has kept its 'allies' in line and held back enemies with threats of military action. Classic bully psychology. Economically, it's this simple: The IMF and the World Bank are doing America's dirty work for it, keeping the poor as hungry as possible and making them dance for a bone. In first world countries ( you know the ones that are just as dysfunctional but with better cable) bankers have found ways to literally deal in debt and while the world's economy goes down the toilet, banking interests have never been happier.

There are a few countries who claim they're standing up to America and are refusing to play ball but they are realistically dictatorships who are out to make a name for themselves. Remember the Family Guy episode E Peterbus Unum where Peter starts a country (Petoria) and the Iraqi diplomat suggests he start some shit to get famous? That's all this is. Some countries are 'opposing' the evil imperialist ways of America to seem tough to radicals and to gain moral support of moderates.
Guys like Bin Laden and Al-Assad are deplorable wads of satanic worm jizz, but they can always say: "You think I'm bad? America's killed more people in an afternoon than i did in my whole regime!"
 
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RebelBuddha

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Edging closer and closer as proxy wars continue after the Arab spring.

http://www.storyleak.com/ww3-brews-as-nation-distracted-by-trayvon-martin-case/

With chemical weapons being used in Syria, and Snowden bringing to light the NSA and "defecting" to Russia.... the proxy war kicks into high gear.

Obama is essentially planning to Attack Syria which will be the official start of a new World war.

All of these players are at the height of their Rhetoric in a time of economic turmoil with modern conventional minds saying that war solves economic downturns.

The world we live in today is a direct result of WWII and that great redistribution. The cold war a result of wanting to distance the western world from backwoods thinking.

I realize how long ago I wrote this thread, but World Wars don't happen in a matter of months, but rather years.
 

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The next world war should be a class war. Unfortunately people allow themselves to be manipulated by random events that are spun into emotionally charged, hyped distractions that draw the focus away from the real social changes that need to take place to achieve the Utopian ideal.

Look at the current racial tensions arising in the US propagated by an event that otherwise would have been overlooked by the masses had it not been manipulated by politicians and the media they control.

Consider how a random school shooting by an unstable individual was used to errode our Second Amendment rights. The shooter didn't even have a cause or identifiable stance to associate with his actions, yet he was portrayed as a tangible and quite possible result for any legal gun owner in the States. Nevermind the fraction of a percentage of illegal guns that are involved in most violent crimes, the large percentage of legal and responsibly used guns must be removed from our hands according to the politicians who are concerned for our collective welfare. The right to bear arms was so important to the architects of our nation that it was the second thing on the list they felt they needed to clarify. Read it! Understand why it was important for them and quit shirking your duty to your own freedom.

Politicians have long exploited divisive tactics to create factions who unwittingly serve the will of the entire political machine, not just the broken and elusive ideology they believe their elected representatives champion. Unite us in fear to defeat the vague and mysterious foreign terror, or divide us with promises to erase a phantom civil issue that is as natural and useful as an appendix in the body of mankind.

I can only wonder if people are beginning to become so frustrated with pulling against their mental collars that perhaps the politician's leashes are starting to fray. Even though the mass protests in the Western arena are laughable and leisure in nature compared to the revolutionary and violent movements to the east of them, something is brewing on a global scale. When Anders Behring Breivik opened the eyes of the world that even the presumed idyllic setting of Norway had social and civil unrest we should have awoken immediately to the truth. The world is ready for World War III, only this time it should not be governments against governments, but people against politicians, only the politicians will continue to try and convince us otherwise.

Don't fear your government. Don't fear for you life. Many will perish, but the military will reach a point when they will stop shooting civilians because they know it is not justice. Most soldiers in the trenches come from the same population they will be ordered to subdue, not the powerful political class. They will be forced to question their orders and the reasoning behind them when the front line is turned 180° from facing away from their homeland to facing their own front yards.
 

RebelBuddha

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Much like we held JLXC to his "theories", we will hold you to yours.
Well, fine with me. Difference between he and I... and you and most others is that you don't pay attention because its all rhetoric and whatever else you think.

However proxy wars are known to beget bigger wars. And its no mystery that the world is in financial crisis. During times like these historically the whole world goes to war. If you think for a second that we can just roll into Syria like its nobody's business just shows how out of touch you are.

Edit:

Here's some more info from a "conspiracy site".
http://news.yahoo.com/u-allies-prepare-probable-military-strike-syria-000900545.html
 
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