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Fringe World War III??

MikeyG

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"Team America: World Poleese!" lol. (Most of U kids were just bein' borned when the Cold War ended. Over 4K Nukes pointed at eachother.. dat was scary.) Iran, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, Afgahnistan & North Korea combined aint as scary as 2 low level USA & Soviet Soldiers sittN in a bunKer wit their fingers on a button. USA guy drunk on Jager, Soviet guy drunk on Vodka responsible for reading the Radar.

Once the Middle East Countries allow women to drive? Dats sum scary shite. What did Reagan or Bush I do when Iraq released chemical weapons on Iran or da Kurds? Not a damn thang. So I defer to Matt Stone & Trey Parker on this subject: "America Fuck ya!" (They might have been a tad sarcastic.) But South Park & them sum pretty politically savvy dudes.
 

danNJ732

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the most sound advice i could offer... Arm yourselves. Get your semi auto assault rifles with high capacity mags while you still can. Get kevlar helmets, get body armor. Learn emergency life saving shit like tourniquets. And more importantly, shoot to kill invasive enemy forces. Put 'em down hard.

Although it's unlikely we're going to have to deal with anything on the homefront, would you want to go down fighting, or be tied up and get your head cut off?
 
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The idea that some faction of the rebel forces is responsible for the chemical weapons strike is gaining some credibiliy. The US should tread carefully here. We only know what is allowed to be reported. Remember, different POTUS, same government. Think a Nobel Peace Prize winnng president is above fabricating a war for "national interests?" I don't. There is a lot of emphasis on how many children were killed. Someone is trying to provoke emotional support for a US attack because the legitimate reasoning for the US interest in toppling the Syrian government is much more cold and hard to sell. I'm not even saying I disagree with a goal of flipping the Syrian government, I'm only pointing out the possible manipulation of the press and people's support of another new military involvement for the US.

If it is all about chemical weapons, it is one hell of an unintended bonus to mess with Russia's puppet in the wake of them granting immunity to Snowden. Think about it.
 
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RebelBuddha

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More importantly, Obama has made it clear that he has no hard desire to wait for UN inspectors to report their findings.

If the goal is truth and safety of chemical weapons.... why in the hell wouldn't Obama wait for the evidence?

Yellow cake uranium out of Africa anyone?
 
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Ww3? Hell yeah, I can't wait. Who cares who fired the chemical weapons. The only thing that matters is we got tiny cameras on tomahawk missles and it's really fun to watch shit blow up. Chances are, you never met a real Syrian and I've only met one. She was a girl and really cute, but she was also twelve...sooo, that means she's married and has two kids. Depopulation should be our goal, so look out India, nobody needs tech support anymore. China, you're cool. You can stay because I'm surrounded by Walmarts that rely on cheap toxic toys. Besides, nobody told those stupid kids to put the toys in their mouths. WW3 just makes sense. Europe shouldered the first two and Asia has had their share of conflict since, so about time the Middle East ponies up
 

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It took way longer than expected, but it's almost here, brought to you by the Central Bankers and their madness and evil.

Weapons of mass destruction as an excuse for it even, hilarious, but not original.

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RebelBuddha

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Russia and the Ukraine for Resources

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/10/ukraine-crisis-gasflows-idUSL5N0OR19Z20140610

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/06/11/beyond-ukraine-russia-is-already-at-war/

China and Japan

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/26/world/asia/china-japan-jets-scramble/

http://www.businessinsider.com/china-japan-conflict-could-lead-to-war-2014-1

US, EU and Russia

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/10/world/europe/europe-b-2-bombers/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/17/us-ukraine-crisis-nato-idUSBREA3G1ZD20140417

http://www.dw.de/eu-prepares-russia-sanctions-nato-sends-planes-to-monitor-ukraine/a-17486571

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2648139/Cold-War-revisited-Russian-fighter-jet-provocatively-buzzes-US-reconnaissance-plane-crossing-100-feet-nose.html

Israel and Iran

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/10/cruz-israel-strike-against-iran-could-happen-in-a-matter-of-months/

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/208529-us-interests-served-by-more-nuanced-views-on-israel-and

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.598071

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/06/10/366375/us-bans-against-iran-losing-efficiency/

The Economy

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/world-bank-cuts-global-economic-forecast-2014-24080432

http://www.forbes.com/sites/energysource/2014/05/29/the-colder-war-and-the-end-of-the-petrodollar/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-holds-de-dollarization-meeting-china-iran-willing-to-drop-us-dollar-from-bilateral-trade/5382215



So I realize that dumping a bunch of links is not typically what most want to see on this site, however they are relevant to the spirit of the thread. As the economy fails to improve globally and the US and EU struggle to accrue more debt, the world stage is set for a mass redistribution of resources.

This is often accomplished through world conflict. All the signs are there... and I feel like documenting this is important. If nothing happens we've wasted no time or space. If something were to happen we will have at least a small timeline of events.

In any case I encourage you to read every link as you have time. The vast majority are from "reputable sources" and if the source doesn't suit you simply find the same story on a more acceptable source.

Realize that all empires die, with an average lifespan of 220-250 years. Considering the supposed Ages of Empire:
The Age of Pioneers
The Age of Conquests
The Age of Commerce
The Age of Affluence
The Age of Intellect
The Age of Decadence.

It would appear through cursory investigation that we are in the Age of Decadence. Marked by traits such as:
Defensiveness
Pessimism
Materialism
Frivolity
An influx of foreigners
The Welfare State
A weakening of religion

Here are a few interesting articles on the subject:
http://www.uvm.edu/~pdodds/files/papers/others/2011/arbesman2011a.pdf

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2006/08/08/empires_with_expiration_dates

EDIT: Russia flies bombers 50 miles off coast of Cali with nuclear cruise missile capabilities.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-bombers-fly-within-50-miles-of-california-coast/
 
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RebelBuddha

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Russian military provocations have increased so much over the seven months since Moscow annexed Crimea from Ukraine that Washington and its allies are scrambling defense assets on a nearly daily basis in response to air, sea and land incursions by Vladimir Putin’s forces.

Not only is Moscow continuing to foment unrest in Eastern Ukraine, U.S. officials and regional security experts say Russian fighter jets are testing U.S. reaction times over Alaska and Japan’s ability to scramble planes over its northern islands — all while haunting Sweden’s navy and antagonizingEstonia’s tiny national security force.

The White House months ago leveled economic sanctions on several Russian businesses and political players, and recent weeks have seen President Obama intensify his rhetoric toward Moscow. But many inWashington’s national security community say the response is simply not firm enough and that, as a result, Mr. Putin actually feels emboldened to push the envelope — Cold War-style.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/23/vladimir-putin-emboldened-by-weak-us-response-to-r/?page=all#pagebreak
 

MisterFister

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It isn't a question of how...its only a question of when. I guess people could do something like completely disregard the whole of human history. That would work. If we decided to discount ALL of human history since the first knuckle-dragger decided to dip a stick in goat's blood to paint a mural of a spear-wielding dude on a cave wall we could pretend what is to come actually isn't what is to come.

Nothing much has changed. The game remains the same just with a new set of players with new and shiny toys.

The owners will plant their respective flags and their coaches will map out the game plan and the mindless rabble will get all fired up and shed their blood for their beloved ownership.

Go Team!

 
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Fÿn

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So, as this shit can only get worse and the world will eventually be engulfed in flames, who wants to bet when the first attack will be? :D

I say June 15, 2016

I'd really like to know what role China will have in all of this.
 

RebelBuddha

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So, as this shit can only get worse and the world will eventually be engulfed in flames, who wants to bet when the first attack will be? :D

I say June 15, 2016

I'd really like to know what role China will have in all of this.
Well the way China is positioning itself is to do as the US has historically done. They will sell to both sides until they see a clear winner or a vested interest and then they'll join up where it makes the most sense. Lately China has been dumping US debt... this isn't a good sign for neutrality.
 

RebelBuddha

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So obviously I've been documenting relations for quite some time. As I've mentioned before... these things don't happen over night.

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As relations between the West and Russia steadily deteriorate, Royal Air Force (RAF) pilots have been given the go-ahead to shoot down Russian military jets when flying missions over Syria and Iraq, if they are endangered by them. The development comes with warnings that the UK and Russia are now "one step closer" to being at war.

RAF Tornado pilots have been instructed to avoid contact with Russian aircraft while engaged in missions for Operation Shader – the codename for the RAF's anti-Isis work in Iraq and Syria. But their aircraft have been armed with air-to-air missiles and the pilots have been given the green light to defend themselves if they are threatened by Russian pilots.

"The first thing a British pilot will do is to try to avoid a situation where an air-to-air attack is likely to occur — you avoid an area if there is Russian activity," an unidentified source from the UK's Permanent Joint Headquarters (PJHQ) told the Sunday Times. "But if a pilot is fired on or believes he is about to be fired on, he can defend himself. We now have a situation where a single pilot, irrespective of nationality, can have a strategic impact on future events."

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If the US dollar is dropped from the World Reserve Currency status... something very similar to a Wiemar Republic is possible. I'm not saying things are like that now... I'm saying it has the atmosphere to be similar.

I dont think anyone will push the Nuke button... I really dont think that any nation is that retarded. I also don't think it would go into anything like the Cold war due to Israel's push to stop Iran. I do think that it could be escalated very quickly into a Total War World War. We've been itching to test out our military as have other nations. its only a matter of time before two well equiped nations battle it out. I think it would be one of these lessor nations that would provoke it though.

Something like... Preemptive strikes by the US, South Korea or Israel...on North Korea, Iran or Venezuela... dragging its allies into it and forcing a response by China or Russia.

All I'm trying to show is the climate that seems to be growing thicker. Of course it could just be making news more recently and thus explain my correlations and thoughts.
Oddly enough... I don't seem to be too far off... only that instead of it being North Korea, Iran or Venezuela... its Syria.
 
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I don't think global war is likely given the interdependence of national economies. While there is a not insignificant measurable political tension between say, Russia and the West, Russia's import and exports are wholly dependent on the West. The same can be said of China even more expressly. While it's not unlikely that one of their smaller allies, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, or what have you may strike at a country allied with the west, especially one allied with America if not America itself, it is unlikely that either major power would back those small countries because of their dependence on the west. With that being true, global scale conflict remains unlikely. One of the major causes of the World Wars was the closed workshop economies of the global powers of the time.

Also, if in some way you're right, I hate you because I'll be stuck in the Navy probably until that shit is over rather than getting out immediately after my hitch. Although, that last part is a joke.
 

RebelBuddha

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I don't think global war is likely given the interdependence of national economies. While there is a not insignificant measurable political tension between say, Russia and the West, Russia's import and exports are wholly dependent on the West. The same can be said of China even more expressly. While it's not unlikely that one of their smaller allies, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, or what have you may strike at a country allied with the west, especially one allied with America if not America itself, it is unlikely that either major power would back those small countries because of their dependence on the west. With that being true, global scale conflict remains unlikely. One of the major causes of the World Wars was the closed workshop economies of the global powers of the time.

Also, if in some way you're right, I hate you because I'll be stuck in the Navy probably until that shit is over rather than getting out immediately after my hitch. Although, that last part is a joke.
Luckily I have an RE4... so I don't have to worry too much.

Right now we're in proxy madness. I don't really know what a modern World War would look like. I don't think it will be invasion forces in trenches and shit like WWI or II. Maybe some naval battles and cruise missiles and drones... special forces and PsyOPs squads fomenting dissent inside a country. We would really have to keep our minds open to what a world war would look like in this day and age.

I'm not sure what you mean by closed workshop economies... but I know that in essence, economics were THE major causes of all wars in the last 150 years. We're in a situation now, globally, where foreign nations are having to adjust foreign policy as well as domestic policy based upon the waxing and waning of a garbage USD. China, Russia and India (as well as others) are looking for a way to get from under the US's financial thumb. And the US is looking for ways to keep them engaged.

Couple the global financial situation with the US global military situation... and you have to realize that other countries aren't going to take that type of treatment for forever. Russia seems to have no problem whatsoever with threatening an old school total war situation. Meanwhile they're playing well within the US's global control structure. And surely... I certainly believe... Russia is doing other things that are a lot less public, to change the global power structure.

I really don't think these other countries are as dependent as we all want to think they are.
 

RebelBuddha

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Chinese media warn against US South China Sea move
15OCT2015
http://www.afp.com/en/news/chinese-media-warn-against-us-south-china-sea-move#


Alleged on-going reclamation is conducted by China on Mischief Reef in the Spratly group of islands in the disputed South China Sea, on May 11, 2015

Chinese media slammed the US Thursday for "ceaseless provocations" in the South China Sea, with Washington expected to soon send warships close to artificial islands Beijing has built in disputed waters.

Tensions have mounted since China transformed reefs in the area -- also claimed by several neighbouring countries -- into small islands capable of supporting military facilities, a move that the US says threatens freedom of navigation.

Following a meeting of American and Australian officials Tuesday, US Defense Secretary Ash Carter warned Beijing that Washington will continue to send its military where international law allows, including the South China Sea.

The remarks were backed by Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, who said the two countries are "on the same page."

An editorial in The Global Times, which is close to China's ruling Communist party, condemned Washington's "ceaseless provocations and coercion".

"China mustn't tolerate rampant US violations of China's adjacent waters and the skies over those expanding islands," it said, adding that its military should "be ready to launch countermeasures according to Washington's level of provocation," it added.

http://www.afp.com/en/news/chinese-media-warn-against-us-south-china-sea-move
 

RebelBuddha

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The President of Peace and Transparency decided that amid bombing by Russian forces that they'd send in Special Operations forces on the ground in Syria. Surely nothing crazy will happen... right?


U.S. to Deploy Special Operations Forces in Syria: Official
by RICHARD ENGEL, JIM MIKLASZEWSKI and CASSANDRA VINOGRAD

The White House will announce Friday that a small number of U.S. special operations forces will be sent into Syria, according to a senior U.S. official.

The senior U.S. official said that the forces will be stationed in northern Syria and work alongside groups with a proven track record of fighting ISIS. The move will be described as a "shift" but not a "change" in U.S. strategy against ISIS, the official added.

The special operations forces could work with Kurdish and allied actors who have come together under the umbrella of the "Syrian Democratic Forces," according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the announcement was not yet public.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-deploy-special-operations-forces-syria-official-n454506